recording and monitoring audio tracks problem

[robenestobenz]

Anyway, i've been thinking in a similar way: To step towards a more traditional way, a track could be linked to an audio recorder, and show the Arm button in the track header, and popping up the audio recorder editor from there so to make changes. Then we could indeed add an "Add Audio Recorder Track" in that menu and then select one of the existing audio recorders or add a new one.
Maybe that's a more 'intuitive' way of doing it than using the separate "Audio Recording Setup" panel. It's an interesting tinking path, but i'm not yet thru with it. I'll think more on this, and eventually post a screenshot to make things more concrete. But i also still have some work to do in finalizing M5.

I think this is a great idea. The possible initial confusion for people who use a lot of audio is IMO that there isn't at the moment a clear visual link between the tracks and the recording set-up. Having toggles for record arming and monitoring on the track headers would make people who came from other DAWs a lot more comfortable to begin with.

[sl23]

I agree, I had difficulty understanding the relation between tracks, racks and recording. Anything that makes this clearer is a good thing.

Thanks for the link to the video Jo that helped.

[MuTools]

Anyway, i've been thinking in a similar way: To step towards a more traditional way, a track could be linked to an audio recorder, and show the Arm button in the track header, and popping up the audio recorder editor from there so to make changes. Then we could indeed add an "Add Audio Recorder Track" in that menu and then select one of the existing audio recorders or add a new one.
Maybe that's a more 'intuitive' way of doing it than using the separate "Audio Recording Setup" panel. It's an interesting tinking path, but i'm not yet thru with it. I'll think more on this, and eventually post a screenshot to make things more concrete. But i also still have some work to do in finalizing M5.

I think this is a great idea. The possible initial confusion for people who use a lot of audio is IMO that there isn't at the moment a clear visual link between the tracks and the recording set-up. Having toggles for record arming and monitoring on the track headers would make people who came from other DAWs a lot more comfortable to begin with.

I though a bit further about that idea and unfortunately it's not as straightforward as it seems. I'll search further for a more straightforward solution.

For now: You can compare the Audio Recording Setup as tracks that are setup for recording. You can setup multiple recorders depending on which inputs you want to record from and what monitoring you want to use. Enable (arm) or disable (disarm) the recorders using the green/red LED at the left, that way you can tell what you want to record at a certain moment. In fact it's very similar to working with audio tracks.

[plutonia]

Anyway, i've been thinking in a similar way: To step towards a more traditional way, a track could be linked to an audio recorder, and show the Arm button in the track header, and popping up the audio recorder editor from there so to make changes. Then we could indeed add an "Add Audio Recorder Track" in that menu and then select one of the existing audio recorders or add a new one.
Maybe that's a more 'intuitive' way of doing it than using the separate "Audio Recording Setup" panel. It's an interesting tinking path, but i'm not yet thru with it. I'll think more on this, and eventually post a screenshot to make things more concrete. But i also still have some work to do in finalizing M5.

I think this is a great idea. The possible initial confusion for people who use a lot of audio is IMO that there isn't at the moment a clear visual link between the tracks and the recording set-up. Having toggles for record arming and monitoring on the track headers would make people who came from other DAWs a lot more comfortable to begin with.

I though a bit further about that idea and unfortunately it's not as straightforward as it seems. I'll search further for a more straightforward solution.

For now: You can compare the Audio Recording Setup as tracks that are setup for recording. You can setup multiple recorders depending on which inputs you want to record from and what monitoring you want to use. Enable (arm) or disable (disarm) the recorders using the green/red LED at the left, that way you can tell what you want to record at a certain moment. In fact it's very similar to working with audio tracks.

ok. thanks. that works but a simpler method would be better. shame it sounds like it isn't entirely straightforward programming wise.

[MuTools]

If you look at the Audio Recording Setup much in the same way as you look at traditional audio tracks, doesn't that make it easier to catch?

[plutonia]

If you look at the Audio Recording Setup much in the same way as you look at traditional audio tracks, doesn't that make it easier to catch?

i have it working fine now but i still think that it should either come set up with a multi record template or even better the addition of an 'add audio record track' option discussed earlier. it's got me wondering how many people use it for audio recording of external instruments at present.

it's integrated synth instruments + use of vst's make it ideal for writing electronic music with virtual instruments but i still think it should be set up better for external recording. as i said earlier, i reckon it would make mulab more attractive to a wider group of musicians.

[pljones]

I have to agree on it not being very obvious how to set up audio recording.

So I started by checking MULAB->Audio Setup to make sure Select Inputs showed all six (mono) input channels selected. That's the default on first run, which is good (I'd turned them all off, so turned them all back on).

Next I went into Setup Record Audio. Of course, this follows the MuLab way of right-click the Record button to find it. By default, a single mono audio recorder existed. I set it to stereo and chose the two inputs I wanted.

I wanted to do multi-track recording - two stereo recorders. So I hit the "+" button and a new empty Audio File Recorder appeared. Unfortunately, from here, I get stuck. Record From only lets me pick existing sources - I can't add another stereo pair. So I can't have two separate stereo recordings at once, it seems.

[MuTools]

I'm sure you know that it is possible via the session mux, but i got your point. Also, to avoid confusion, my reply to plutonia was not to discuss/doubt the issue, it was just meant as a helper. Thanks to all for your constructive criticism. I'll look for improvement during M5.x / M6.

[pljones]

Yeah, I was just trying to walk through what someone was likely to try, even with a little familiarity with MuLab - partly to show where I think the feature should be. (I actually don't like the idea of "Audio recording tracks" - I'm against this kind of thing on principle . It's the content of a part that's either audio or events, not the track it's on... ) New multi-channel audio recordings should be automatically assigned to one (stereo input) rack per (stereo) channel, and hence get their own track each that way (same effect, different concept, I guess...).

(Then you get back into the "How do I do punch-in/out more easily" etc...)