New DIVA components

[chilly7]

i alredy told here in this thread why Arturia cannot amulete Oberheim 8 voice at all

There's more suggestions in that thread than just the Arturia.

And they're your best bet, because Diva will never be an EFS emulation for reasons Urs explained a couple of pages back.

(I see that the spell checking hint was too subtle for you. )

Maby, but if we will have ability to run 8 individual modules in Diva in the same time as on Oberheim 8 voice that will be supper amazing!!!

P.s.
At list Uhe known to listening to custumers for implementing different features...

[chilly7]

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(And I agree with hakey -- please spend a little more time on spelling and grammar. This isn't SMS, you have an entire keyboard that you can type with and you have plenty of time before pressing the "submit" button.)

I am taping on my iPad most of the time with a little virtual keyboard on it...
So it's kind of SMS

[pdxindy]

i alredy told here in this thread why Arturia cannot amulete Oberheim 8 voice at all

There's more suggestions in that thread than just the Arturia.

And they're your best bet, because Diva will never be an EFS emulation for reasons Urs explained a couple of pages back.

(I see that the spell checking hint was too subtle for you. )

Maby, but if we will have ability to run 8 individual modules in Diva in the same time as on Oberheim 8 voice that will be supper amazing!!!

At list Uhe known to listening to custumers for implementing different features...

Just the Oberheim filter/osc combo would be enough... we can already do some fantastic tricks with unison (up to 6 voices)... and you could use 8 instances if you insist on an 8 voice...

My point is that it is also up to the user to make creative use of tools, not just expect the developer to do everything. Right now as it is, Diva can make incredibly gorgeous pads... so sweet and full and rich!

[hakey]

I am taping on my iPad most of the time with a little virtual keyboard on it... So it's kind of SMS

Still, there's no excuse for the poor spelling.

Is turning on your browser's spell checker really too much effort?

[chilly7]

I am taping on my iPad most of the time with a little virtual keyboard on it... So it's kind of SMS

Still, there's no excuse for the poor spelling.

Is turning on your browser's spell checker really too much effort?

I tape that way, because it is test for intellegense, so clever people must decode what i writen.


and also it filtrates for me lazy and rude people, because lazy people will be lazy to decode my text and rude people will tolk about my gramma all the time instid of the topic...

[chilly7]

My point is that it is also up to the user to make creative use of tools, not just expect the developer to do everything. Right now as it is, Diva can make incredibly gorgeous pads... so sweet and full and rich!

Like what? Running 8 instanses of Diva in ur DAW in the same time to creat unison?

[bmrzycki]

and also it filtrates for me lazy and rude people, because lazy people will be lazy to decode my text and rude people will tolk about my gramma all the time instid of the topic...

So you're trolling? I think it's probably best if I just mute you now.

[pdxindy]

My point is that it is also up to the user to make creative use of tools, not just expect the developer to do everything. Right now as it is, Diva can make incredibly gorgeous pads... so sweet and full and rich!

Like what? Running 8 instanses of Diva in ur DAW in the same time to creat unison?

Sure... why not? It is not much trouble...

Right now in Diva you can set unison to 6... so you have a 6 voice. And you can set the filter to different cutoff for each voice, have different voices with different pitch for chords or for octaves. You can do 2 instances with 4 voice unison to have your 8 voices and have different cutoff and/or resonance and/or pitch and/or filter FM etc.

[chilly7]

and also it filtrates for me lazy and rude people, because lazy people will be lazy to decode my text and rude people will tolk about my gramma all the time instid of the topic...

So you're trolling? I think it's probably best if I just mute you now.

Rude person

[chilly7]

My point is that it is also up to the user to make creative use of tools, not just expect the developer to do everything. Right now as it is, Diva can make incredibly gorgeous pads... so sweet and full and rich!

Like what? Running 8 instanses of Diva in ur DAW in the same time to creat unison?

Sure... why not? It is not much trouble...

Right now in Diva you can set unison to 6... so you have a 6 voice. And you can set the filter to different cutoff for each voice, have different voices with different pitch for chords or for octaves. You can do 2 instances with 4 voice unison to have your 8 voices and have different cutoff and/or resonance and/or pitch and/or filter FM etc.

Year, my trick will work only in unison, but if i want some chords or seq out of 8voices, it is not possible now , atlist as i know in all major DAWs to manipulate plugins only mabe in Bitwig.....

Also my consern is that summing might sound differently in DAW then in analog synthesizer

My point is that it is also up to the user to make creative use of tools, not just expect the developer to do everything. Right now as it is, Diva can make incredibly gorgeous pads... so sweet and full and rich!

Like what? Running 8 instanses of Diva in ur DAW in the same time to creat unison?

Sure... why not? It is not much trouble...

Right now in Diva you can set unison to 6... so you have a 6 voice. And you can set the filter to different cutoff for each voice, have different voices with different pitch for chords or for octaves. You can do 2 instances with 4 voice unison to have your 8 voices and have different cutoff and/or resonance and/or pitch and/or filter FM etc.

Thanks, nice tip. I will try it.
I do not own Diva, right now i have only demo.

But i think u cannot set real individual oscilators and emvulops diferently for each voice right now... so i still think it would be a welcome edition, if they let u use up to 8 separate individual Diva modules and u can run them:
1) unison
2) sequanser
3) chords

The same way like on real Oberheim 8 voice u could do with individual SEM modules

[pdxindy]

Thanks, nice tip. I will try it.
I do not own Diva, right now i have only demo.

But i think u cannot set real individual oscilators and emvulops diferently for each voice right now... so i still think it would be a welcome edition, if they let u use up to 8 separate individual Diva modules and u can run them:
1) unison
2) sequanser
3) chords

The same way like on real Oberheim 8 voice u could do with individual SEM modules

You can already do that!!

Besides that Diva does not have a SEM module, you can do all of what you want already. If you want to emulate the 8 voice structure, you can use 8 instances.

In Live, I use a Max 4 Live device to send each note to a different track with its own instance. So each voice will have its own settings. There is a script to do this in Reaper and I am sure other hosts have some means to do the same thing. If you just want to layer, then it is even easier.

For many simpler patches, a bunch of instances are not needed. Like I said, in one instance of Diva right now you can adjust pitch per unison voice for unison chords... you can also adjust cutoff, resonance and filter FM per unison voice.

[hakey]

Is turning on your browser's spell checker really too much effort?

I tape that way, because it is test for intellegense, so clever people must decode what i writen.

and also it filtrates for me lazy and rude people, because lazy people will be lazy to decode my text and rude people will tolk about my gramma all the time instid of the topic...

[chilly7]

Thanks, nice tip. I will try it.
I do not own Diva, right now i have only demo.

But i think u cannot set real individual oscilators and emvulops diferently for each voice right now... so i still think it would be a welcome edition, if they let u use up to 8 separate individual Diva modules and u can run them:
1) unison
2) sequanser
3) chords

The same way like on real Oberheim 8 voice u could do with individual SEM modules

You can already do that!!

Besides that Diva does not have a SEM module, you can do all of what you want already. If you want to emulate the 8 voice structure, you can use 8 instances.

In Live, I use a Max 4 Live device to send each note to a different track with its own instance. So each voice will have its own settings. There is a script to do this in Reaper and I am sure other hosts have some means to do the same thing. If you just want to layer, then it is even easier.

For many simpler patches, a bunch of instances are not needed. Like I said, in one instance of Diva right now you can adjust pitch per unison voice for unison chords... you can also adjust cutoff, resonance and filter FM per unison voice.

Uuuuu cool!!! I did not know that!
Thank u!

I did not know that u can manipulete plugins in Live like that, but unfortionaly i think it won't be possible for me, because own Live Intro 8, but Max I belive is in a fully load version of Live...

P.s. But i might get ur Organic seeds too

[TomTwohy]

Jesus kid... you're running Live Intro?

You're trying to save money in the wrong place by looking to your plugins to get around the LIMITATIONS imposed by Live Intro... it's a sucker play by Ableton, not in any WAY an "smart move" to try to avoid the high cost of full Live.

Trust me... I've tried this route, I upgraded the full version and it really makes all the difference. Ableton made very sure that at some point you HAVE to get the full version... the only work around is to use all hardware synths (and even that has issues).

Demanding all kinds of LUDICROUS workarounds (like asking for no less than a total rebuild of Diva) to get something as trivial as 8 voice stacks is just plain crazy.

Just to make sure, last night I too was able to get eight instances of Zebra to fire with one note by just piling the instances on the same input... it was EASY... because I spent the money on the upgrade.

Your strategy to "save dollars" by buying Diva (instead of the Live upgrade) is flawed... you still have a crippled DAW and that will cause more trouble down the road.

My suggestion to you is pay the reduced fee on Live 8 (it's on sale right now) and upgrade... plus you'll get Live 9 when it comes out for free.

Simple. Clean. Smart.


Moreover, you have some strangely "ghetto" ideas about intelligence and language... intelligent folks tend to use language very well and thrive on forums... this is particularly true of synth forums like this one where computer science intersects with synthesized acoustics.

Spelling correctly is in fact a social courtesy... to force others to "decode" your bad spelling is, in fact, quite rude and childish...

... this rudeness, on top of your ranting to get Urs and the community to help you get around Live Intro's lack of channels is just plain silly...

... you need to own your actions and be a little more humble for christ's sake.

[chilly7]

Jesus kid... you're running Live Intro?

You're trying to save money in the wrong place by looking to your plugins to get around the LIMITATIONS imposed by Live Intro... it's a sucker play by Ableton, not in any WAY an "smart move" to try to avoid the high cost of full Live.

Trust me... I've tried this route, I upgraded the full version and it really makes all the difference. Ableton made very sure that at some point you HAVE to get the full version... the only work around is to use all hardware synths (and even that has issues).

Demanding all kinds of LUDICROUS workarounds (like asking for no less than a total rebuild of Diva) to get something as trivial as 8 voice stacks is just plain crazy.

Just to make sure, last night I too was able to get eight instances of Zebra to fire with one note by just piling the instances on the same input... it was EASY... because I spent the money on the upgrade.

Your strategy to "save dollars" by buying Diva (instead of the Live upgrade) is flawed... you still have a crippled DAW and that will cause more trouble down the road.

My suggestion to you is pay the reduced fee on Live 8 (it's on sale right now) and upgrade... plus you'll get Live 9 when it comes out for free.

Simple. Clean. Smart.


Moreover, you have some strangely "ghetto" ideas about intelligence and language... intelligent folks tend to use language very well and thrive on forums... this is particularly true of synth forums like this one where computer science intersects with synthesized acoustics.

Spelling correctly is in fact a social courtesy... to force others to "decode" your bad spelling is, in fact, quite rude and childish...

... this rudeness, on top of your ranting to get Urs and the community to help you get around Live Intro's lack of channels is just plain silly...

... you need to own your actions and be a little more humble for christ's sake.

Speaking about Ableton Live intro, i am not advertising awrybody to use Ableton Live Intro.

My reasons behind beside a very limited money i have now is why right now i use Live Intro is that i want Samplitube as soon as possible when it will be ailable for the most advensed operation system in the world, but icording what i was told by Tim Dolbear it will be awailable in october.

My reasons behind that:
i think it is pretty good DAW and one of the best ones, but it is more for DJs and performance oriented DAW but i need something with supper deep editing possibilities and the best possible signal flawn and summing algorithms and Samplitude looks like exectly what i need