Diva Amp Hold possible?

[jsrobinson]

Hi all,

I was wondering if Diva has already, or if it's possible to setup an amp envelope "Hold" knob, similar to the one on the MS-20?

For tweaking certain sounds while recording straight to audio, this would be really useful to free up a hand for knob turning. I'd say it would be a sufficiently "analogue" feature if there's not already to set a note hold like this up within the synth.

[Urs]

We're probably going to add a Latch/Hold button...

[robin77]

Hey Urs, is there a latch/Hold button on the Diva ? i cant find it and i would need it , thanks !

[Urs]

We haven't added it yet.

OMG that was ten years ago.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

We haven't added it yet.

OMG that was ten years ago.

You've still got 8 days. Plenty of time to add before the 10 year anniversary!

[Urs]

I've given this some thought. I think I remember that we deliberately decided not to do it because it would make stepping through presets a bit of a nightmare. Likewise, opening a project saved in hold mode would immediately start making noise.

However, we somehow managed to get it done in Repro-1, without much of an issue.

So I'm happy to reevaluate our decision. But I'll ask this:

Can you name 4-5 polyphonic synthesizer plug-ins that have a hold/latch mode? I would like to look at how others have resolved these issues, and I'd maybe contact their developers and ask them about their experience.

[EvilDragon]

Surge XT has it as one of play modes. It makes the patch monophonic (of course).

Nobody ever objected.

[muki]

vital has a button called "Hold" in it's amp ENV1
but...it doesn't hold... (no idea what it does...)
(ps-edited: found it: same as in alchemy: holds at max sustain level before decay)

korg ms20 has a hold in the main EG (as mentioned by the OP)
even polyphonically

audiodamage quanta
there the sustain can be up to 10sec long
makes sense imho, since it's a granular player

NI massive x
bevore decay (as in vital or alchemy) and also
after decay/sustain like the ms20

the newly updated FKFX KrishnaSynthLegacy

alesis ion/micron has a sustain-time/hold mode iirc

[robin77]

I admit that i dont know about other plugins. When i play live i use a RHodes with a Synth. (Prophet Rev2 mainly). I recently discovered DIva and i fell in love with it , i now want to use it in live with Mainstage. But on some tunes, i need the hold button so i can use my 2 hands to play the Rhodes. If i had 3 hands it would be ok , but people would look at me strangely , so i need the Hold button , it would really help me in live

[tasmaniandevil]

Is there a reason why you can't use a sustain pedal to hold those notes in Diva?

[Urs]

Surge XT has it as one of play modes. It makes the patch monophonic (of course).

Nobody ever objected.

When you flip through presets, when you hit one with Hold mode enabled, do they produce sound without further user interaction?

Likewise, when you open a previously saved project, does it produce audio without further user interaction?

[Urs]

"Hold" in it's amp ENV1
<snip>

Each of these seem to refer to an envelope stage, not a voice mode. What we talk about is a voice mode though where the synth plays regardless if a key is pressed or not.

[EvilDragon]

When you flip through presets, when you hit one with Hold mode enabled, do they produce sound without further user interaction?

Likewise, when you open a previously saved project, does it produce audio without further user interaction?

Yes and yes. We haven't ever received a support inquiry about this!

Granted, Surge probably doesn't have as large of a userbase as u-he does...

[Urs]

Hehehe, I need a larger group of samples...

[EvilDragon]

Not much to go by, but here's github download statistics for all the various Surge XT artifacts...

https://somsubhra.github.io/github-rele ... eleases-xt