New DIVA components

[Urs]

is the OB-X filter the screwy 12db LP? Kinda squelchy .. in a good way? I haven't heard an OB-X for real in years.

Absolutely.

We've been hinting at the OB-X filter for quite a while. Unfortunately it's traditionally very close to Diva's Multimode filter in 12dB, but it isn't compensated for resonance volume - it gets *loud*. So, between our two OB-Xes, a SEM and the Studio Electronics ATC Quad we tickled a bit of an exaggerated character out of it. Like, we emphasized the difference between the SEM and the Jupiter-6/Alpha Juno. Of course we added a modulatable crossfade between LP/Notch/HP, the lack of which we identified as the main criticism about Tom Oberheim's new SEM.

Can't wait to get this out - we'll certainly post a public beta some time in May...

[Urs]

My other top vote (as Urs has heard before) is for a Voyetra 8. I don't think that will happen unless one manages to magically fall into his lap.

Hear that, VS and Voyetra owners!? Send your synths to Urs before they die!

I've been watching out for one... they hardly ever pop up...

[Urs]

It also has an interesting plain triangle that you can modulate. It's pretty unique.

Yes. We actually used Control2 of the TriangleMod to do the same thing as this Triangle. So you have both in one, and that makes the TriangleMod way more interesting.

We couldn't really go much further with the wave wrapping because it starts to alias badly. After long discussions about whether to alias or not, we kept TriangleMod tame.

PWM even has some addition that isn't there in the original. Call it a happy accident

[SJ_Digriz]

it gets *loud*.

I remember that being the key thing about it and the P5 when they first came out... they were both so loud and cutting .. they could compete with guitars right out of the box.

[3ee]

JP8K "supersaw" osc is half of the sound IIRC.

The other half would be the rich stereo chorus which I don't know how well it relates to the current available chorus models in DIVA.

[3ee]

Honestly, I was expecting a PPG or a Prophet VS osc, but the JP8000 sounds interesting as well, can't wait to play around with...!

Also, can't wait to check out the OB-X filter color... as even slight differences have significant impact on the tone in some cases/combinations.

[david.beholder]

so what other digital oscillators would be considered iconic? DX7? ESQ1?

Prophet VS
PPG Wave
Korg DW8000

In order of personal preference.

one more for SQ80/ESQ1 - they are amazing and distinctive

[Ch00rD]

JP8K "supersaw" osc is half of the sound IIRC.

The other half would be the rich stereo chorus which I don't know how well it relates to the current available chorus models in DIVA.

Well, that is true for the (Alpha) Juno series as well, and Diva's chorus effects do quite a nice job to achieve a similar sound. I don't recall how different the JP-8K chorus sounds, but I guess the existing chorus modules will do more than well enough for starters.

[...] as even slight differences have significant impact on the tone in some cases/combinations.

You bet! Typical *serious* conversation between synth addicts: "Hey listen to this 303 clone." "Whoa, are you kidding? That isn't even close." "How so?" "Well, the filter is *slightly* different." QED.

And I'm not talking about *completely different* things advertised as 'similar'. E.g., back when Novation were noobs, they even dared claiming that their first product - the BassStation - was more or less a TB-303 clone. Well, it was monophonic, analog, had both saw and square waveform oscillator modes, and also had a resonant low pass filter. close enough?

[EvilDragon]

JP8k is indeed a bit of a strange choice. Blasphemous, indeed. But...


FEEDBACK OSCILLATOR? REALLY? WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!

[Sendy]

The JP's "Super chorus" was very nice. Make a pad with a supersaw on osc1, mid-speed PWM on osc 2, detune amount drifting gently with the LFO, slap Super Chorus on and a long attack and release time and it's pad heaven.

You could argue the Super Chorus was the reason the supersaw oscillator didn't need to have pan spreading on it's individual sawlets. I'm fairly sure we have enough modern chorus options to make it sing, but an emulation of that chorus would be pretty sweet

This kind of pad makes an excellent "sweetener" to put way in the background of something more savoury.

[hakey]

one more for SQ80/ESQ1 - they are amazing and distinctive

A good deal of which will be down to the waveforms, the rights for which will be owned and protected by someone - which rather puts the kibosh on a faithful emu. I guess the same will be true for the DW8000 and the Prophet VS.

Anyway, supersaw reservations aside, this JP8K oscillator should be more than enough to go on with for now.

[Ch00rD]

JP8k is indeed a bit of a strange choice. Blasphemous, indeed. But...


FEEDBACK OSCILLATOR? REALLY? WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!

It's only blasphemy to analog purists. If you'd simply want all the classic Roland synths in one plug-in, it *has* to be included. *Not* including it would be sacrilege.

Btw, with a bit of hacking, the Moog filter can be used as a very nice 'feedback oscillator' as well. I'll try to post a little demonstration shortly.

[Urs]

I can assure you guys and gals that a supersaw osc or two with a 2 x voice stack and pan modulated by stack index (the mod source formerly known as voice modulator) run through any of those filters will result in the richest stereo pads - if multicore permits a chord. A chorus would be overkill in this situation.

I'll grind my teeth once someone drenches this in all too much reverb. It's inevitable though.

[SJ_Digriz]

I'll grind my teeth once someone drenches this in all too much reverb. It's inevitable though.

rofl

[Aiynzahev]

I can assure you guys and gals that a supersaw osc or two with a 2 x voice stack and pan modulated by stack index (the mod source formerly known as voice modulator) run through any of those filters will result in the richest stereo pads - if multicore permits a chord. A chorus would be overkill in this situation.

I'll grind my teeth once someone drenches this in all too much reverb. It's inevitable though.

So I was right!

Are you going to do the feedback? That is an amazing sound.

Let me just mull over this for a few weeks. A supersaw osc in Diva.. hmm A supersaw osc in Diva. It will take me a while get my head around the reality!

So you said a beta in May? So the announcement is just in April, no release?

Sami