The Dark Zebra - Tip (Stereo Filter Solved)

[xanderevo]

Hi Urs I have a question that is really bothering me,

why the diva filters into the dark zebra are actually altering so heavy the stereo image?

for example I did a very wide supersaw patch (with the enhancer) when I put a diva hpf or vcf the stereo image is so narrowed that I need an external stereo expander...

[EvilDragon]

Diva filters are not stereophonic, IIRC.

[Bronto Scorpio]

Yep! The Diva filters are mono.
You could split your sound into two lanes and use 2 filters to get a stereo signal path.

Cheers
Dennis

[xanderevo]

Yep! The Diva filters are mono.
You could split your sound into two lanes and use 2 filters to get a stereo signal path.

Cheers
Dennis

Would be difficult to manipulate the filters together at once on multiple osc,
thanks for the explanation thou;

A.

[EvilDragon]

MIDI learn...

[Bronto Scorpio]

Yep! The Diva filters are mono.
You could split your sound into two lanes and use 2 filters to get a stereo signal path.

Cheers
Dennis

Would be difficult to manipulate the filters together at once on multiple osc,
thanks for the explanation thou;

A.

You could use a stupid trick:

Set the cutoff freq of both filters to the lowest value, add MMix1 into one of the filter modulation slots and turn the modulation amount all the way up, set ModMix1 to "sum modulations" mode.
Now you can use (and modulate) the "Const" knob of ModMix1 to control both filters.

Like this:



You can download the preset here.
I hope this helps!

Cheers
Dennis

[Ch00rD]

MIDI learn...

Yep! The Diva filters are mono.
You could split your sound into two lanes and use 2 filters to get a stereo signal path.

Cheers
Dennis

Would be difficult to manipulate the filters together at once on multiple osc,
thanks for the explanation thou;

A.

You could use a stupid trick:

Set the cutoff freq of both filters to the lowest value, add MMix1 into one of the filter modulation slots and turn the modulation amount all the way up, set ModMix1 to "sum modulations" mode.
Now you can use (and modulate) the "Const" knob of ModMix1 to control both filters.

Cheers
Dennis

Good tips gents, but having stereo versions of the filters would still be a valuable addition, imho. MIDI learn would not work with using the GUI controls directly; and there is a limited number of MMix, while one would ideally want to synchronize all filter parameters. But, fwiw, another (similarly imperfect) workaround I can think of is: using the host to do stuff like linking parameters in REAPER; or assigning them to the same Macro knobs in an Instrument Rack ('Group') in Live.

[EvilDragon]

Stereo versions would kill your CPU.

[Ch00rD]

Stereo versions would kill your CPU.

Of course, fair point. However, that also goes for running two instances in parallel.

I'm all for killing entire generations of CPU's btw - if the Diva demands something better, the Diva will get something better. Eventually. (Moore's Law FTW.)

[EvilDragon]

Moore's law has been through a decline lately, since it's not about CPU speed anymore...

[Ch00rD]

Moore's law has been through a decline lately, since it's not about CPU speed anymore...

I heard that's not what the CEO at ASML showed some engineers today. But you're right, the number of transistors that fit on an integrated circuit is not important in isolation from (many) other factors, such as cost (Moore's Second Law already goes into that one). Thanks to the smartphones, the focus has been on energy consumption more than sheer power in the last few years. But if you hear about what some people like Antonis Karialis do...

[EvilDragon]

Yep, the Moore Law of the future is basically retaining the speed, increasing the number of cores, and reducing power consumption.

[xanderevo]

Stereo versions would kill your CPU.

I am not sure about this, but I think my tower can already handle the load, I doubt there will be stereo filters as they are modeled from mono units.... but who can say that?

Thanks for all the workarounds and yeah midi learn was a pretty obvious one and it works "well", but it doesn't get saved with the patch, so I need to map the filters every time.

You could use a stupid trick

Dennis sir.. that's very clever actually.
bravo!

assigning an additional envelope would require another mod mixer (not available) to add a bit of decay to the cutoff I suppose?

Nevermind I figured out, thank you very much you all, the stereo filters workaround works best.[/quote]

[xanderevo]

This is the patch I needed and I want to share it with you:


Download Link:
Stereo Filters III

[pdxindy]

Stereo versions would kill your CPU.

I am not sure about this, but I think my tower can already handle the load, I doubt there will be stereo filters as they are modeled from mono units.... but who can say that?

Thanks for all the workarounds and yeah midi learn was a pretty obvious one and it works "well", but it doesn't get saved with the patch, so I need to map the filters every time.

Use the X/Y controls