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IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Thu May 09, 2013 10:08 pm

Vinny Vanity removed from both Soundcloud groups.
I had to remove the same two tracks from the groups thrice.
No text here, no warning, no nothing from him. So blocked.

It seems a massive group spammer.

Have a nice day

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Thu May 09, 2013 10:16 pm

IrionDaRonin wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote:One more "how do I" question if I may: A snare.

Usually I'd reach for a triangle and some noise.
Not sure kow to approach it with just a triangle.

I have tried copious EQing, bit crushing, distortion etc with no luck.
Try this one.

IDR - Snarish Perc

You can start from it.
With a bit of layering, Transient, EQ and reverb you can make something alike to this.

IDR OSC52 drum part

Have fun and have a good day

IDR, you are just amazing mate.
Unbelievably helpful.

I think I'm done with all my sounds now. Just need to work on structure/FX etc.

Thx again

miskaseppa · Post by **miskaseppa** » Fri May 10, 2013 1:15 pm

Just finished my first ever one-synth song "Elektrotanz"

I used:

- Logic Pro 9
- about 50 instances of Podolsky
- Logic channel EQ, Compressor, AdLimiter, silver/gold/platinumVerb

It was really fun to try to make a song with just one sound source. I think the hardest things were the high-end cymbal/percussive sounds and drums. Lots of layering and EQ.
The style of music was also new to me, so it was a very nice challenge.

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Sat May 11, 2013 6:07 pm

Entry posted later in thread.

V'ger · Post by **V'ger** » Sat May 11, 2013 6:56 pm

miskaseppa wrote:- about 50 instances of Podolsky

Now that's how we play

miskaseppa · Post by **miskaseppa** » Sat May 11, 2013 7:46 pm

Oh yeah! Counted em.
53 to be exact.

IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Sun May 12, 2013 12:23 am

miskaseppa wrote:Oh yeah! Counted em.
53 to be exact.

Welcome to OSC.

But hands down! The record still is for Half Ninja with 82 instances of Charlatan.
That was freaking insane.

Have a nice day

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:01 am

IrionDaRonin wrote:Half Ninja with 82 instances of Charlatan.
That was freaking insane.

Yes! He's still the master... I was thinking of loading up tons of Podolski's to get the new record, but I'm already getting a bit heavy on the CPU at 43, I don't think it would make it beyond 82!

z.prime · Post by **z.prime** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:12 am

Well, still not a final thing, but an awesome preview - much different.

z.prime - The Living

TT Dynamic Range: 8

Plugins used:
u-he Podolski - 43 instances
epicVerb
Thrillseeker XTC
mgTempoDelay
ReaComp
ReaXComp
presenceeq
Limiter No6
Transient-driven auto-pan
Proximity
CamelCrusher

https://soundcloud.com/z_prime/z-prime-the-living

miskaseppa · Post by **miskaseppa** » Sun May 12, 2013 7:31 am

IrionDaRonin wrote: Welcome to OSC.

But hands down! The record still is for Half Ninja with 82 instances of Charlatan.
That was freaking insane.

Have a nice day

Wow! That is an impressive record.

I think the number of Podolskis went up because I just got lazy and added instances for different filter rates etc. instead of automating them. Podolski uses so little CPU it was possible.

But now I know the record that you should go for.

e@rs · Post by **e@rs** » Sun May 12, 2013 9:56 am

WOW! Mixing 82 sounds... For me would be M:I.
I downloaded the track, can't wait to hear it.

IrionDaRonin · Post by **IrionDaRonin** » Sun May 12, 2013 10:42 am

e@rs wrote:WOW! Mixing 82 sounds... For me would be M:I.
I downloaded the track, can't wait to hear it.

As i remember, he did a chorus type effect combining different synths detuned a bit between them, for some leads and dubstep basses, hence the high amount of instances.

Have a nice day

photonic · Post by **photonic** » Sun May 12, 2013 2:08 pm

Regarding the ongoing debate in the "general OSC discussion", I have now reached a point with a Podolski-snare, where I am not sure if it is allowed or not. You now, that Podolski has no noise. So I made the percussion and the snare-body sound with Podolski and send it through the MoVerb, to add a decent noise tail to the snare. This leads to a quite useable realistic snare.

MoVerb:
http://steelberryclones.wordpress.com/2 ... everb-vst/

Sound Example. Thirst 4 bars the pure Podolski, then I added BootEQmkII and FluxBitterSweet-II to increase the high frequencies and the attack, finally I added the short reverb for the noise and play it together with the Kick :
www.astroimages.at/snare-test.mp3

Preset:
www.astroimages.at/Pho-Snare.h2p

This is for me a typical issue how far the sound-design can go. When I take a longer reverb with differnt room settings in MoVerb it sounds like reverb. Do I make the room short, take it as mono and without predelay, I got the noise tail of a snare. Where can I draw the line?

I did not use a forbidden FX. I just used certain parameters of a typical reverb and used no modulation. But the original sound is no more recogniceable.
Therefore I think the rules should either allow such and other FX-results or we need better defined, or more strict rules (which leads to the group who prefers a pure preset competition).

So guys, can I use it?

Gamma-UT · Post by **Gamma-UT** » Sun May 12, 2013 2:35 pm

I've reached more or less the same point. I asked a similar question in the main thread based on the same situation. On the basis that no-one did a BodySnatcher scream-and-point and the general tone of the discussion was towards a more liberal interpretation, I'd be inclined to go with it. If I manage to finish my piece, it will use a similar approach.

Technically, the source sound is not unrecognisable as the dry sound is still prominent in the attack (well that's how I've mixed mine so far).

RuediRena · Post by **RuediRena** » Sun May 12, 2013 4:05 pm

photonic wrote:Regarding the ongoing debate in the "general OSC discussion", I have now reached a point with a Podolski-snare, where I am not sure if it is allowed or not. You now, that Podolski has no noise. So I made the percussion and the snare-body sound with Podolski and send it through the MoVerb, to add a decent noise tail to the snare. This leads to a quite useable realistic snare.

[ ... snip ... ]

So guys, can I use it?

Another example I am contemplating. First half is a stacked snare made with two instances of Podolski without reverb, the second half has Classic reverb on one and TAL II reverb on the other instance.

Have a listen!

True, the second half may be more satisfying as a traditional snare sound for a lot of styles. On the other hand the dry example might be useful in other styles. It is tempting to use the processed one and it somehow might also boost my ego to come up with it

, but honestly it feels like cheating to use it.

I think in the end everybody has to decide what his or her conscience says (or V'ger respectively - which would be fine with me. Democracy in this matter leads to endless discussions as we see in the general discussion thread).

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