I have been corrected! sorry for calling you by your first name, Urs!

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... URS...

a better 'sorry' might be for driveling about sfa.

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i DID reply to him! i told him after his second PM to f**k off!

So please do not think i didn't reply! That would be rude!

Okaaay.

[Echoes in the Attic]

i noticed the only people against me in this are the people that continuously have a go at me whenever they get a chance *about anything* in the forum. Always the same people.. and the ones i am sure that voted they hated me in my poll.

I can't speak for others but you are wrong on at least one count. I've never had a problem with you. I just think your reaction to the PM and the thread you created because of it, are both ridiculous.

On a side note.... you made a poll about who hates you? Oh dear.

As far as using CAPS, i often do that with any member's name if i am emphasising a point. If it is AGAINST the forum rules to quote a member's name in CAPS, i will never do it again. Simple. One PM from a mod will sort that out, or a PM or post here from URS himself. (see, how used to emphasis there? And yes, i did that one on purpose)

Oh and to make THIS clear, if anyone else thinks it's OK to pm me out of the blue to give me behavioural advise, cause that's *exactly* what it was, don't.

I sincerely hope you don't go through life interpreting such well meaning and harmless attempts to help you as being offensive. They even specifically said no offence was meant. And you are telling people in public "Don't be like this person and try to give me behavioural advice".

You obviously have some serious issues. Perhaps I shouldn't have poked fun. But I do feel bad for whoever pm'd you because you've felt the need to make them feel like an ass for no good reason.

i wasn't referring to you dear, but to evil dragon.

Ok, the quote below indicates something different. So I think my correction was justified.
"i noticed the only people against me in this are the people that continuously have a go at me whenever they get a chance *about anything* in the forum."

Not to you at all. don't have a single issue with you. Of course i didn't make a poll about who hates me LOL.. i made a poll about what i consider a valid complain/issue about the IK amplitube installer and put the fish option cause i am so bored of seeing fish as "anonymous opportunity to say i hate you Theo" and i got 4 votes (already know who they are). My goodness, do you really think i care if people here at KVR dislike me or hate me? A moment of seriousness.. i DO care what certain people think of me.. my family and real friends.

Ah ok. Sorry I never saw the poll. I wouldn't have thought an option of hating you would be part of a poll about a product, so I thought that was the actual poll topic. I'm very glad to hear that wasn't the case!

No offence was meant? Well this is where we disagree, i think it's disgraceful to PM someone to give them advice on how to speak in a forum. That is belittling and far more offensive than what i could have said. I even got another pm already entitle "sorry you couldn't take a hint".. again, that's very condescending. The person is indirectly saying I am dumb.

The thing is, when someone pm's you, it is precisely so as not to seem offensive in public or to make you look dumb in front of others. It is precisely to NOT belittle you. It is only between the two of you and there is no agenda to make you feel stupid, simply to do some small measure of good and clarify a point for your benefit.

Now we are getting personal.. i obviously have some serious issues? of course i do.. does anyone at this place NOT? really? get over yourself if you think you are perfect. I mean, to even contemplate that is the funniest thing i could ever think of. I never suggested otherwise. But i don't PM people out of the blue correcting them. Everything i pick people up on here, i never do myself. Ever. Lots of things that other's pick me up on, they do themselves (not in this case with the Pm issue but i mean generally in the forum).

Oh by the way, i think you're a stupid idiot, but absolutely no offence meant! I have clearly said no offence meant so that should be ok!

I do always find it funny when someone feels the need to tell someone publicly that they have issues. You have already been a hypocrite.. you have (tried to) shame me publicly, YET, no one knows who sent me the PM, no one. You continue to say i am embarrassing him/her.. but it's ok to say in *public* i have serious issues

Oh, i'll end this with one word about anyone who says *that* to someone - Projection, much. Ok, that was two.

Sorry man. My sincere apologies, I was caught between a reaction to make fun of you and just seriously point out that your reaction was inappropriate. The thoughts came out a little too directly there. I just meant I guess you have issues with people trying to help you. You've always seemed to want to do the right thing. So for the record I think you are in the wrong here. You've made it clear that you don't care what others think. I might come out of this thinking "Ok I shouldn't tell someone they have issues, that doesn't help" and probably won't again. Maybe you'll come out of it thinking somewhere down the road "Maybe i should just answer a PM with a PM and also give people the benefit of the doubt that they actually mean well even if they irritate me".

We all do stupid shit. Better to be called on it and hopefully do less stupid shit in the future. Sorry for insulting you.

Oh by the way, i think you're a stupid idiot, but absolutely no offence meant! I have clearly said no offence meant so that should be ok!

I know that was just for example's sake, but I just wanted to point out that saying "FYI, there's a company by that name, and I know you try to be as accurate as possible, so just letting you that spelling might be confusing for some" is a bit different to saying "You are a stupid idiot".

I do always find it funny when someone feels the need to tell someone publicly that they have issues. You have already been a hypocrite.. you have (tried to) shame me publicly

Would have pm'd but you've made your position clear on that.

[David Else]

There are a lot of important things going on in the world, and this thread is probably the least of all of them... on planet earth, i feel sad i am even posting here, but i just feel the need to express how trivial and meaningless this entire subject is, maybe all contributors should just kill themselves?

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

[Urs]

I wish the real Urs would come

Will the real Urs Heckmann please stand up.

That about sums it up

Guys, if you wanna fight, don't do it in my name, or about it.