Waldorf Pulse 2

[Ingonator]

Sometimes I wish I would still use hardware but I simply dot have space for it anymore, otherwise I would get this. The old pulse was pretty beefy IMO!

The size of the Pulse is the same as the Blofeld desktop and i got my Blofeld at the free space of my Yamaha Motif ES 7.

The Pulse has 2 more knobs at the matrix as they are a bit smaller.
The editing matrix of the Pulse 2 has 6 x 6 = 36 entries while the Blofeld has 4 x 4 = 16 (without double or triple selections like for e.g. the Oscs).


Ingo

[dalor]

Thanks Ingonator for the size description. Unfortunately I sold my digital 03D mixer and racks with all hardware years ago. It's not only the synths but tons of cabling that takes alot of space, you know what I'm talking about

Have fun with the Pulse2!

[Ingonator]

Thanks Ingonator for the size description.

Here is a picture i made last year at the Musikmesse:



The Pulse 2 also fits on the free space of a Blofeld keyboard:




I got pictures from this years too. I'll try to post them later.


Ingo

[dalor]

Sheez I better stop looking at these pictures, my wrists and fingers move into its natural 'knob-tweak-position'

They look nice too, I think I could make space on my des...Nooooooooo!!

[tehlord]

If potential customers (ie me and a number of others) think the price is too high compared to the competition that's available now and in the near future, then the price isn't right. Features or not, releasing an analogue mono (para) synth in the face of plenty of competition without all the hands on control that the vast majority of people actually want is a little foolhardy.

They would have been better off pricing it €100 less, or €200 more with more knobs.

I bet the Bass Station 2 will outsell this 10:1, whether it deserves to or not.

[EvilDragon]

Features are important, and sound above all. Pulse will definitely sound very different than BS2, so there will definitely be people wanting THAT kind of sound. I know I'd rather have this than BS2, personally. It's the most flexible thing in its price range, that's for sure.

[Ingonator]

If potential customers (ie me and a number of others) think the price is too high compared to the competition that's available now and in the near future, then the price isn't right. Features or not, releasing an analogue mono (para) synth in the face of plenty of competition without all the hands on control that the vast majority of people actually want is a little foolhardy.

They would have been better off pricing it €100 less, or €200 more with more knobs.

I bet the Bass Station 2 will outsell this 10:1, whether it deserves to or not.

I have tested the Pulse 2 at this years Musikmesse (and will be hopefully one of those who get a unit for beta testing...) and it is very simple to use.
The editing matrix is very well laid out and not much "menu diving" needed.
As already mentioned the mod matrix is shown on a single page of the graphical display and you could use the knobs to enter the name of the patch when saving (patch name is 12 letters/digits, so 2 x 6 knobs used).

With the built-in Drive this could sound so fat that you have to take care of your speakers (and ears...).
It got really tons of features, much more than most other monosynths.

I have also tested the Bass Station II and it is fun indeed. Anyway both synths are quite different in terms of features and sound.
While the Acid filter (and other features) of the Bass Station II are awesome i still prefer the Pulse 2 if i have to choose.

Feature wise both have to offer a lot but the Pulse e.g. offers 3 full featured oscillators where the 3rd Osc in the BS 2 is a Sub-Osc only.

The patch memory in the BS 2 seem to have 64 presets + 64 user locations while the Pulse 2 got 500 fully editable memory locations.


Ingo

[tehlord]

If potential customers (ie me and a number of others) think the price is too high compared to the competition that's available now and in the near future, then the price isn't right. Features or not, releasing an analogue mono (para) synth in the face of plenty of competition without all the hands on control that the vast majority of people actually want is a little foolhardy.

They would have been better off pricing it €100 less, or €200 more with more knobs.

I bet the Bass Station 2 will outsell this 10:1, whether it deserves to or not.

I have tested the Pulse 2 at this years Musikmesse (and will be hopefully one of those who get a unit for beta testing...) and it is very simple to use.
The editing matrix is very well laid out and not much "menu diving" needed.
As already mentioned the mod matrix is shown on a single page of the graphical display and you could use the knobs to enter the name of the patch when saving (patch name is 12 letters/digits, so 2 x 6 knobs used).

With the built-in Drive this could sound so fat that you have to take care of your speakers (and ears...).
It got really tons of features, much more than most other monosynths.

I have also tested the Bass Station II and it is fun indeed. Anyway both synths are quite different in terms of features and sound.
While the Acid filter (and other features) of the Bass Station II are awesome i still prefer the Pulse 2 if i have to choose.

Feature wise both have to offer a lot but the Pulse e.g. offers 3 full featured oscillators where the 3rd Osc in the BS 2 is a Sub-Osc only.


Ingo

I'm not doubting its capabilities in any way, and I do actually want one. The point I'm trying to make is that from a sales perspective I think they've given themselves a hard task here. Menu diving is not as fun, intuitive or desirable and for that reason I think they've made a bad decision.

I'm sure it'll sound awesome though

[Ingonator]

I'm not doubting its capabilities in any way, and I do actually want one. The point I'm trying to make is that from a sales perspective I think they've given themselves a hard task here. Menu diving is not as fun, intuitive or desirable and for that reason I think they've made a bad decision.

I'm sure it'll sound awesome though

My point was that if you actually used it for editing your own sounds like i did at the Musikmesse you would see it is very simple to use.
I would not actually call this kind of matrix editor "menu diving".

You get a feedback of the exact values in the display for each knob you turn.
As those are endless encoders you never have to set the knobs to the default position. When editing an existing sound the changes are relative which means you always start with the original value.

Even parts that need "menu diving" like e.g. the mod matrix (with all slots on a single page) are done in a way that is quite simple.

It maybe does not look that way but the Pulse is actually quite heavy for it's size. Both the knobs and the case are made of metal.
In the inside there are a lot more electronics than a few chips (DSP + CPU + flash memory) like in the Blofeld.


Ingo

[Agathodaimon]

The price is fine, it can do a lot of things Minibrute and miniMS-20 cannot do. Preset memory, for example. Paraphony, as well.

I guess the beauty of the MS-20 and MiniBrute you would use a Polaroid camera to save you presets or have thousands of little papers flowing all around with presets on them .

[EvilDragon]

Polaroid? What's that? :D:D

[himalaya]

Polaroid? What's that? :D:D

Indeed!

Real synthesists use pen and paper!

[Agathodaimon]

Thanks Ingonator for the size description. Unfortunately I sold my digital 03D mixer and racks with all hardware years ago. It's not only the synths but tons of cabling that takes alot of space, you know what I'm talking about

Have fun with the Pulse2!

Yeah i agree with this, i don't have THAT much gear but all the cables are such a pain in the bum, honestly they are just all over the f***ing place.

Sheez I better stop looking at these pictures, my wrists and fingers move into its natural 'knob-tweak-position'

They look nice too, I think I could make space on my des...Nooooooooo!!

Hahahahaha i know the feel, I TRY[:lol:] so hard to keep my table as clean as possible.

[Agathodaimon]

Polaroid? What's that? :D:D

Indeed!

Real synthesists use pen and paper!

Well i would take a pic, and with the little white space left under the pic, i'd name the preset and glue them on the wall with rest of the patches, hahahaahahaha, i find it more in-handy, coz i always end up having papers everywhere all over the room. :D:D

[himalaya]

I use these