Zebra3 Info

[Urs]

I'm confused lol
Zebra3 = $249
Zebra2 to Zebra3 upgrade = $30

So if you really only want to get Zebra3 we have two options:
$199(Zebra2) + $30(Update) = $229 (instead of $249, save $20)
-or-
$199(Zebra2) + $99(ZebraHZ) = $298 (instead of $249, overpaid $49 but you got ZebraHZ and Zebra2)

Did I got this right lol?

Thing is, once Zebra3 is out we'll still have The Dark Zebra on sale. Thus, for $298 you get something that'll be $348 later on.

(in other words: It's a clever scheme to reward early adopters )

[NeuroFunker]

well, i guess it can't get any better

[Rookie2]

Hello Urs,

nice to read about zebra 3.
btw z2 and tdz are geniuos.

I do not know if you mentioned it
earlier in the thread,
but will zebra 3 be able to read samples?
Especially wav an aiff?

This would be awesome and would
Absynth 5 really blow away.

Cheers, Guido

[EvilDragon]

I don't think it would blow Absynth away - Absynth is a whole different thing and it has plenty of aces up its sleeves too.

[Eclipse.Sound]

and it has plenty of aces up its sleeves too.

Multi Envelopes assignable to almost every parameter for Example.

I Think there should not be any MSEG in Zebra 3 or basic "old-type" Env modules in the Right (like in Zebra 2.5) - just Envelopes like in Absynth 5 and we have 2 in 1 - simple easy and viewable: (all in one place with grid so we can sync them for example in some key points)




I don't like Present solution - but i don't have anything to say to Urs about it - creating this kind of complex synth (like Zebra 2) by one person is a huge achievement for me.

But i hope in time, it will evolve in this kind of direction, shown in the picture above.

[dayjob]

though extremely flexible i LOATHE the envelopes window in absynth. i hate looking at and using it. absynth to me is generally a giant clusterfvck of an interface imo. it's super complex and can do so much and they've done the best they can trying to wrangle all that flexibility and power but god.. i just can't fvcking stand to use it. i think i liked it better when all the windows were floating as default.

i'd hate to see zebra become a big mess like absynth.

[Eclipse.Sound]

though extremely flexible i LOATHE the envelopes window in absynth. i hate looking at and using it. absynth to me is generally a giant clusterfvck of an interface imo. it's super complex and can do so much and they've done the best they can trying to wrangle all that flexibility and power but god..
i'd hate to see zebra become a big mess like absynth.

I think Absynth 5 is not a Mess (But it has crapy Macro Control assigments IMO i like Zebra here more and better filters of Zebra)

And it is complex but most things with lot of options are - and that's not a downside in any case.

I Find the serial, vertical Envelopes of Absynth Better - because You can easly track some key points and blur some timbre changes with Filter for example ect.

And sure its more complex, but i think idea of Zebra is to be flagship synth - and these should really present some big potencial and possibiliteis and just because few people are to lazy to learn few new things, or dont want to - that's not the reason to hold back the progress and make other people "suffer", because there's a lot of simple synths out there. (come to think of it: more then 90 % of synths are very simple)

i liked it better when all the windows were floating as default.

Like here?:



Absynth 5 has floating windows - just press "control" when you click on the tab. - and there you go...

[xh3rv]

Heh, I don't buy that MSEGs = more powerful. MSEGs are unique, with exclusive functionality, but that's also true of envelopes, or LFOs, or MMaps. Compositing amongst these is sort of provably more 'powerful'. Programming this way just seems canonically Zebra to me, I would miss it. (I don't know Absynth very well, so maybe I'm limited to thinking in Zebra-space ).

Solely as it relates to GUI, though - this gets really curious, at times I'd imagine devilishly so. I do get the desire for some more visualization, like an oscilloscope for mod sources (a voltmeter, I guess?) ... at the same time there are things that don't translate well. I think this property of being easily visualized is maybe how MSEGs are implicitly defined - everything on MSEGs is somewhat visually natural, where that's a little less true for envelopes (e.g. an attack time that ranges greatly on velocity and keyscale). LFOs and MMaps are maybe worse yet for easily visualized logic. I'm all for visualizing whatever makes sense, I just wonder what actually does ... seems a question with some potential and lots of pitfalls

[dayjob]

i liked it better when all the windows were floating as default.

Like here?:



Absynth 5 has floating windows - just press "control" when you click on the tab. - and there you go...

derp! lols.. yeah.. thanks for the reminder.

i guess i should use absynth a bit more. it's been a while since i got my hands dirty there.

[rtkeeling]

Absynth 5 has floating windows - just press "control" when you click on the tab. - and there you go...

The floating windows only work when you're running the stand-alone version. You don't get them when running Absynth in a host (at least not in FL Studio or Ableton Live). Just wanted to point that out. Also, just for my own amusement, I opened all of the floating windows and arranged them to fit my dual monitors at 1680x1050, and they take up about 90% of my screen real estate! Certainly a lot of things to tweak in Absynth.

To bring this back on topic, I like Zebra 2's layout as well, even without floating windows.

Roy

[glokraw]

just for my own amusement, I opened all of the floating windows and arranged them to fit my dual monitors at 1680x1050, and they take up about 90% of my screen real estate! Certainly a lot of things to tweak in Absynth.
Roy

Is that configuration saveable in the standalone version?
Cheers

[Urs]

Well, I have no interest in copying Absynth in any way.

Can we move on to something different now? Please?

[Vertti]

I just bought Zebra. It had never really clicked on me but then somebody had it on sale only 99€ so I couldn't resist anymore.

Zebra 3 updated price sounds really fair. Only $30 for almost completely new synth. I can't wait but on the other hand I'm not in a hurry because I have a lot to learn. I have really been enjoying playing with Zebra last few hours. It helps that I have gained experience on synth programming so everything feels a bit easier.

Diva was already my favourite soft synth and I see Zebra becoming one too. Good job u-he! Keep it coming.

[bftucker]

I don't like Present solution - but i don't have anything to say to Urs about it - creating this kind of complex synth (like Zebra 2) by one person is a huge achievement for me.

But i hope in time, it will evolve in this kind of direction, shown in the picture above.

Evolution into what? No offense, Elipse, but the picture below came to mind...



I hope Zebra 3 is even more Zebra!

[j0hnny]

Is Zebra 3 scheduled/planned to be released in 2013?

Can you confirm if midi out from the arpeggiator will be implemented on the V3 release?

Thanks