KVR Audio

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:04 pm

Drone-E should get a mention, if only to show what surprises freebies Reaktor delivers-
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=364138
Pretty impressive freebie.

SODDI wrote:Rasmus Ekmun's venerable Granulab (http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Granny.htm). The 8-voice version is now FREE.

Looks like the download is temporarily not available atm, fei.

Geez, with a $99 Reaktor, and the $89 Granite, its a strange and awesome time to get into grains.

Fwiw, imo, Granite is important for me as 'the grain synth that I am actually productive with', as opposed to a lot of other 'bigger' grain tools where I end up tweaking a sound into oblivion as often as not.

randomelement2` · Post by **randomelement2`** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:10 pm

Here are a couple of more for you.
http://www.partikkelaudio.com/

http://xenakios.wordpress.com/. Standalone. He seems to update on a regular basis. Scroll down to hear samples.

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:15 pm

marioisaac wrote:AudioMulch looks too nerdy for me (I dont want to get into programming).

It's actually like have the universe's biggest stomp box chain.

cron · Post by **cron** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:21 pm

SODDI wrote:
marioisaac wrote:AudioMulch looks too nerdy for me (I dont want to get into programming).
It's actually like have the universe's biggest stomp box chain.

This! Audiomulch is a 100% programming-free zone. It's incredibly easy to use.

It superficially looks a bit like Reaktor or Max/MSP, what with all the blocks and wires, but it's not like that at all. All the 'blocks' you see are complete sound generators/processors (such as VST effects or Audiomulch's built in stuff). You just plonk a load of VST effects in there then connect them together however you want. Want to patch an output back into the input of something earlier in the chain for feedback madness? No problem!

It's basically just a digital recreation of this kind of thing:

Audiomulch's strength is in being able to effortlessly connect your effects together in any way you can imagine; ways that would be extremely difficult or impossible in a traditional sequencer.

My preferred use is to get a big old chain going, constantly record the output while tweaking (especially tweaking the granular stuff), then chop it up for use in a 'traditional' DAW.

marioisaac · Post by **marioisaac** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:13 pm

cron wrote:
SODDI wrote:
marioisaac wrote:AudioMulch looks too nerdy for me (I dont want to get into programming).
It's actually like have the universe's biggest stomp box chain.
This! Audiomulch is a 100% programming-free zone. It's incredibly easy to use.

It superficially looks a bit like Reaktor or Max/MSP, what with all the blocks and wires, but it's not like that at all. All the 'blocks' you see are complete sound generators/processors (such as VST effects or Audiomulch's built in stuff). You just plonk a load of VST effects in there then connect them together however you want. Want to patch an output back into the input of something earlier in the chain for feedback madness? No problem!

It's basically just a digital recreation of this kind of thing:

Audiomulch's strength is in being able to effortlessly connect your effects together in any way you can imagine; ways that would be extremely difficult or impossible in a traditional sequencer.

My preferred use is to get a big old chain going, constantly record the output while tweaking (especially tweaking the granular stuff), then chop it up for use in a 'traditional' DAW.

Ok I get it, that looks like Reason, with the ability to wire VSTs.

Anyhow, even though it will take some time and routing tracks, I can see myself doing this VST wiring with Ableton.

I could probably just stay with Ableton Suite 8, Reason, and the freebies like Hadron and Hour Glass, Plug Granulizer. I think I could easily spend a year experimenting with this tools. Anyways Reaktor looks really tempting for the price, so Im very likely to get it.

tanabarbier · Post by **tanabarbier** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:22 pm

Yes you could, but in Live, could you send your signal to a granulizer, then left to a delay, right to an other, then both delays to the same reverb and at the same time to to differents granulizers, panned hard left and hard right, going both through the same comp, wich has a connexion to 3 different reverbs, each one going with differents volumes and pans to your final EQ, that one fed too with a small percentage of each previous step? And then, oh, modulate evrything, with just a joystick for all your rates and depths?

I guess audiomulch is much like Usine for that kind of things, and it would take up to 15 mn set that up, on a slow day. Modular is just christmas all year long for those who like to experiment!

The learning curve should be called "the fun part where you're allready doing incredible stuffs and having a lot of fun, even though you don't understand everything that you are doing for now".

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:48 pm

tanabarbier wrote:Yes you could, but in Live, could you send your signal to a granulizer, then left to a delay, right to an other, then both delays to the same reverb and at the same time to to differents granulizers, panned hard left and hard right, going both through the same comp, wich has a connexion to 3 different reverbs, each one going with differents volumes and pans to your final EQ, that one fed too with a small percentage of each previous step? And then, oh, modulate evrything, with just a joystick for all your rates and depths?

Then sidechain to haduken.

cron · Post by **cron** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:35 pm

Oh yeah, don't forget your basic audio editor when doing granular stuff too. Granular synthesis really comes alive (especially with sparser clouds of grains) when you load your cloud into an audio editor and start replicating/repitching/reversing etc individual grains and grain phrases. Essential tool.

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:56 pm

<promo>
MachFive 3 handles granular synthesis as well

</promo>

dayjob · Post by **dayjob** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:05 pm

otristan wrote:<promo>
MachFive 3 handles granular synthesis as well

</promo>

and if someone buys it today he/she might be able to use it in a couple weeks when pace/ilok gets its act together

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:23 pm

cron wrote:
SODDI wrote:
marioisaac wrote:AudioMulch looks too nerdy for me (I dont want to get into programming).
It's actually like have the universe's biggest stomp box chain.
This! Audiomulch is a 100% programming-free zone. It's incredibly easy to use.

It superficially looks a bit like Reaktor or Max/MSP, what with all the blocks and wires, but it's not like that at all. All the 'blocks' you see are complete sound generators/processors (such as VST effects or Audiomulch's built in stuff). You just plonk a load of VST effects in there then connect them together however you want. Want to patch an output back into the input of something earlier in the chain for feedback madness? No problem!

It's basically just a digital recreation of this kind of thing:

Audiomulch's strength is in being able to effortlessly connect your effects together in any way you can imagine; ways that would be extremely difficult or impossible in a traditional sequencer.

My preferred use is to get a big old chain going, constantly record the output while tweaking (especially tweaking the granular stuff), then chop it up for use in a 'traditional' DAW.

I thought you couldn't record the output to audio? That is its biggest limitation for me, no way to record the output to audio or midi except using automation.

cron · Post by **cron** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:08 pm

Yeah, it's dead easy to record the output to audio in real time. I haven't used it for a few years (and I haven't used version 2 at all), but as far as I recall you do that through the record button on the SoundOut object. Hit record and tweak away.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:26 pm

Get Komplete. Sure, it's a lot but it's not like you have to give attention to all of it or any of it until you feel ready. It doesn't all auto launch when you open a project. Reaktor is awesome for granular stuff as is Absynth, which has a granular osc mode. There's Skanner too... though you need Komplete ultimate to get that. (not granular but seems cool)

Other cool plugs for sample manipulation...

Alchemy
Iris
Poseidon

and, there's a free version of Neuron V that'll run on Intel based Macs. I don't think you can load your own samples though... but it comes with a big library.

marioisaac · Post by **marioisaac** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:08 pm

zerocrossing wrote:Get Komplete. Sure, it's a lot but it's not like you have to give attention to all of it or any of it until you feel ready. It doesn't all auto launch when you open a project. Reaktor is awesome for granular stuff as is Absynth, which has a granular osc mode. There's Skanner too... though you need Komplete ultimate to get that. (not granular but seems cool)

Other cool plugs for sample manipulation...

Alchemy
Iris
Poseidon

and, there's a free version of Neuron V that'll run on Intel based Macs. I don't think you can load your own samples though... but it comes with a big library.

Thank you, I'm getting the Neuron V.

Granular and other worldly sounds.