2C-Aether Reverb

[Andrew Souter]

AAX is well underway BTW... It was just held up some by the PACE issues lately... No we're not using iLok, don't freak out.

But in order to support PT 11, all plug-ins are required by Avid to use some other Pace technology to verify they have not been hacked. Yay--extra systems coding that does not give us any real benefit! (sarcasm.)

Done soon hopefully...

[softska]

What'd ya mean? Something is fuzzy in the current GUIs? what? where?

The labels underneath the knobs for example; just typical problem w all other plugins look just as good/bad except PA who somehow have support for HiDPi, don't know what/how they do but on my MBPr their GUI looks practically lickable...

On my old MBP they look just fine, it's solely a retina screen problem: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac ... TP40012302

We're sneaking in a couple extra new features in B2 also. Shhh it's secret.

Hey now hey now...

[Andrew Souter]

The labels underneath the knobs for example; just typical problem w all other plugins look just as good/bad except PA who somehow have support for HiDPi, don't know what/how they do but on my MBPr their GUI looks practically lickable...

On whcih Skins? Small/normal or HD?

On my old MBP they look just fine, it's solely a retina screen problem: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac ... TP40012302

Oh I see. That could make sense on the small skin b/c the small skin uses a special font designed for really small text. It is like 1-bit font, no anti-aliasing, as it turns out to be most readable at very small sizes. But if that gets re-sampled and interpolated by a retina display it might get more blurry b/c it is not being displayed as it is designed exactly. The interpolation alg prob does not know what should be a hard edge and what should be smoothed when resizing.

Manuel Colom who helped with the first 1.5.0 GUI and basically defined this style that we use since then, is a true interface guru who worked at Apple for a long time on the GUI teams. Designers at his level worry about sub-pixel spacing in designs and adjust sizes of things by 0.5 or 0.25 pixels or less to purposefully get different antialising rasterizations. So when it is displayed at the expected size it is perfect. But if retina display resamples it, we can't control that sort of thing.

I suppose we could draw labels as live text instead of embedding them into the PNGs, but then we can't use special fonts, or have to redistribute them which I am not sure is legal and is an extra pain to manage with the installers etc.

Ultimately what will prob happen anyway, is that hosts will switch to full retina display mode anyway, and then the HD skin will be displayed as its exact pixels, but at one half the size. So it will look like the small skin, but better resolution. Then nothing is re-sized. Then I would have to remake the skin at 4X the original size if it still wanted it to be as big as it shows now for the HD skins...

And/or this 4K displays that are finally happening will have higher PPI like the current retina display MBPs. So the apparent size will come down some, and hopefully display natively without any re sampling.

Personally I hope there is like a 36" to 48" 4K display so that PPI is not so high that is not really useable to show more information. And I hope there is one that is 5120*3200 or 5120*2880px. i.e. twice the current 30" displays. The race to push crazy resolutions into tiny form factors is silly at this point. At some point the displays have to be bigger for the extra pixels to really mean anyting in terms of useable GUI area.

[xtrax]

I just uploaded new folder for the 1.6
All presets are updated.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/9157144-post919.html

[MFXxx]

I just uploaded new folder for the 1.6
All presets are updated.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/9157144-post919.html

Thanks (for all the presets you've contributed)

[Breeze]

Plus I am personally a fan of full-screen apps. Something like our verbs you don't need to have open at all times, and when it is open you are focused on it. So why not take over the full screen while using it, and then close the window.

While I like big GUIs, I'm not a fan of full-screen usage for plugins because while I work with a plugin it's useful to me to have simultaneous access to my mixer (sends, returns, levels, distribution, etc...) and sometimes other plugin windows. Maybe it's a question of workflow. But I could see it as an option; of course ultimately the ideal would be a fully re-sizeable GUI...

[Breeze]

BTW, just a niggle: it looks like there's no Indigo or Indigo HD Skin in my 1.60 Beta 2 [B120], PC 64-bit. FYI...

[MFXxx]

BTW, just a niggle: it looks like there's no Indigo or Indigo HD Skin in my 1.60 Beta 2 [B120], PC 64-bit. FYI...

I've just downloaded the latest ontheir webby, both Berlin, Indigo and HD versions are there in the info panel for : Windows7x64 Cubase7x64

Peace

[Breeze]

I just uploaded new folder for the 1.6
All presets are updated.
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/9157144-post919.html

Thanks for your generosity in sharing these! But is this link correct? It links to three single Large Hall presets.

[Breeze]

I've just downloaded the latest ontheir webby, both Berlin, Indigo and HD versions are there in the info panel for : Windows7x64 Cubase7x64
Peace

Oops. You're right... For some reason I was expecting a more dramatic difference between the two, like in Breeze. I haven't been able to run Aether in a while...

[MFXxx]

I've just downloaded the latest ontheir webby, both Berlin, Indigo and HD versions are there in the info panel for : Windows7x64 Cubase7x64
Peace

Oops. You're right... For some reason I was expecting a more dramatic difference between the two, like in Breeze. I haven't been able to run Aether in a while...

No problem Breeze, to be honest I have found with the GUI I would prefer a size setting between the two.

Cant satisfy all the people all the time ;~)

I think you'll find Den has only updated the 3 individual presets. Have a scour through his aether/breeze post on GS you will find what you are looking for. Think they are are compatible with 1.6 just not pre 1.51 builds.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Just wanted to say that I've now been able to load Aether in Ableton Live. When I installed the new version it still didn't show up, so I removed the VST, loaded live again (which rescanned), then closed live reinstalled and then it showed up.

[Breeze]

I think you'll find Den has only updated the 3 individual presets. Have a scour through his aether/breeze post on GS you will find what you are looking for. Think they are are compatible with 1.6 just not pre 1.51 builds.

Thanks, I found and installed the "Expression D" bank yesterday, but his message seemed to imply that the whole bank was updated. It's hard to keep up with you, Den, but this is not a complaint!

[Breeze]

...to be honest I have found with the GUI I would prefer a size setting between the two.

Cant satisfy all the people all the time ;~)

What Galbanum, U-he and others are doing to accommodate different GUI sizes is just the beginning. Eventually I think it'll be possible to satisfy all the people all the time: while it's not the original intention, the potential of 4k+ tech using pixels so small as to become imperceptible could create a revolution in display capabilities allowing all manner of resizing: full screen scaling, different zoom levels in each window, infinitely variable GUI sizes... all without any loss of resolution. But everyone will have to play ball for this to happen, from the devs and artists to the graphic card and OS manufacturers. This could take a while. So for now I take what I can get and I'm thankful for it.

[elxsound]

Just wanted to say that I've now been able to load Aether in Ableton Live. When I installed the new version it still didn't show up, so I removed the VST, loaded live again (which rescanned), then closed live reinstalled and then it showed up.

This worked! Thank you Echoes in the Attic!