Diva appears to have a reputation (quite rightly, IMHO) for being EASY to learn. You might have a point about the different parameter names, but I also think you're overstating your case.Stevee00 wrote:I'm confident such a UI skin would open Diva to many more new musicians who shy away now because they hear that Diva is "hard to learn."
Diva GUI frustration and suggestion
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Hey Stevee00, no disrespect, but i was born in 1975, so I don't really have the history of tweaking knobs on vintage synths. I'm a VA child, even the D50 and DX7 were 'before my time' as a muso. But I suppose it's through my interest in tweaking and using other vintage emu's like the Creamware synths, that Diva makes perfect sense to me. I know that Emphasis is Resonance on a Mini, etc.
It sounds to me that what you're asking for is a Diva Player version, perhaps with 8 assignable macro knobs or xy pads. That would make the Diva engine accessible to a broader audience of preset tweakers. Something along the lines of Arturia's Analog Lab etc.
I've got no problem with that.
It sounds to me that what you're asking for is a Diva Player version, perhaps with 8 assignable macro knobs or xy pads. That would make the Diva engine accessible to a broader audience of preset tweakers. Something along the lines of Arturia's Analog Lab etc.
I've got no problem with that.
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- KVRian
- 787 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from sweden
Important for the OP to realize that he is not really having access to one synth with some options, RATHER several monolithic legends, where U-he was kind enough to allow us to interchangeably pervert routings and mix some genes. Nothing saying that a similarly labelled knob on one of those synths will have the same effect on another. Remember, you (very graciously) have several different synths there. Pretend when you flip that little arrow that you are actually removing modules from the inside of hw and replacing with other modules from another piece of hw...then you will be more forgiving of the 'conventions' you think are in front of you.
- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 11 Dec, 2008 from Minneapolis
This conversation wouldn't be happening with a Diva Stevie Wonder version either.xalama qo wrote: It sounds to me that what you're asking for is a Diva Player version, perhaps with 8 assignable macro knobs or xy pads.
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- KVRian
- 787 posts since 15 Nov, 2005 from sweden
Indeed not. ...How wonderful it would be sometimes to completely forget the sense of sight while making music... RESPECTxh3rv wrote:This conversation wouldn't be happening with a Diva Stevie Wonder version...
Edit: of course if I just keep on downing this cheap wine or my ale's of the week... I'll be
- KVRAF
- 26995 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Stevee00 wrote:
My reason for whining about the GUI is truly out of frustration. I hear a patch that's almost what I want, I go in to Diva to make an adjustment--to something the modwheel does, for example--and spend five minutes running down the modulation paths until I find it. Sometimes I never do, in which case I give up on that patch and try another. It's in these moments that I think, "if only I could click on this knob to show me exactly what causing it to change." Yes, I've studied the manual, but I don't want to have to keep going back to it to remember what this or that vintage knob with a vintage name really does, or spend lots of time exploring all the interactions just to make a tweak.
Steve
All the modulators are labeled. If the cutoff is being modulated by the modwheel, it will say so.
If for example cutoff is modulated by 'add' then you go to modifications page and see at a glance what two modulators are added and whether the modwheel is one of them. Likewise if resonance or filterFM is modulated, it will get a little graphical 'm' next to it and again you would look on the modifications page and one glance shows you whether the modwheel is being used.
At most it cannot take more than 10-15 seconds to see everything that the modwheel could possibly be modulating. Diva does not have a complicated modulation system.
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- KVRAF
- 1586 posts since 7 Jun, 2007
Nice vid of Stevie!
At first I thought you were suggesting we all need a Robert Frost standing over us tweaking our...erm...knobs. To which I would have replied only Hans Zimmer can afford Howie!
But, yup, tactile instruments are hard to beat.
Here's some more cool Stevie wailing on a talkbox:
At first I thought you were suggesting we all need a Robert Frost standing over us tweaking our...erm...knobs. To which I would have replied only Hans Zimmer can afford Howie!
But, yup, tactile instruments are hard to beat.
Here's some more cool Stevie wailing on a talkbox:
