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hmm I think the website is down...
vaisnava:Bee-Berp, that does not compute, your post exceeded the 4x4 parameters, Bee-Berp
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Andywanders wrote:And I need to ask:

Will a future update respond to CC 64 (Sustain)..?
You cannot use the sustain pedal with Spire?? Ouch... I was thinking about trying it what with all the praise... but that is a downer

Okay, keep the praise coming so I can get enthused again ;-)
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Can I have some clarity on the pricing

It's 69 euros + vat so around 84€/£72 uk, does the 139€ include or exclude vat when sale ends?
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wachimol wrote:hmm I think the website is down...
I cannot access the website either :(
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site IS down...update coming?... (hope so...)
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fisherKing wrote:site IS down...update coming?... (hope so...)
Based on my quick diagnosis of the problem, I suspect it's more likely a real technical issue, as their authoritative DNS servers are not returning the site's IP address.

The site is likely still up, but the URL is not resolving the IP correctly.

But that's not to say I would love to be wrong and see a new update with an 80% CPU reduction or something!! :)
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a rob lee soundset would make this perfect (well, that, and the cpu use reduced...). am getting this (once the site is back up)...
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fisherKing wrote:a rob lee soundset would make this perfect (well, that, and the cpu use reduced...). am getting this (once the site is back up)...
Sorry mate i have too much on. Gonna be busy till christmas with something hardware NDA means i can't say what. I want SPIRE though for my own productions besides i'm sure there'll be tons flooding KVR with banks within no time.. It just ain't fun no more like the old days mate. Anyways the factory sounds are good enough to get people up and running IMO. No need for more just save your money and make your own mate it's a doddle ;-)

Their site is down atm anyways so no buy tonight for me. Try again tomorrow. Ok back to Logic X and the manual lol :-)

Rob
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rob_lee wrote:
fisherKing wrote:a rob lee soundset would make this perfect (well, that, and the cpu use reduced...). am getting this (once the site is back up)...
Sorry mate i have too much on. Gonna be busy till christmas with something hardware NDA means i can't say what. I want SPIRE though for my own productions besides i'm sure there'll be tons flooding KVR with banks within no time.. It just ain't fun no more like the old days mate. Anyways the factory sounds are good enough to get people up and running IMO. No need for more just save your money and make your own mate it's a doddle ;-)

Their site is down atm anyways so no buy tonight for me. Try again tomorrow. Ok back to Logic X and the manual lol :-)

Rob
u mean, i have to learn logic X (which i am loving btw), AND spire, AND make my own sounds? next you'll be suggesting i make my own music (instead of using only apple loops and drummer...) :cry:
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Was going to get this too tonight, :help:
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woodsdenis wrote:Was going to get this too tonight, :help:
Yeah me too.. not happening tonight now though as their site is still down so hopefully it's back up tomorrow. Will try then.
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Their Share-it is http://www.shareit.com/product.html?car ... =300577477

I've had it up refreshing the page to see when it gets cheaper :lol:
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bmanic wrote:Well damn.. this all motivated me enough to get a quick and dirty custom FTP thingy running so that you can download the ridiculous examples here.

Here are 5 file. 4 renders and the actual reaper project.

I simply rendered the thing 4 times.. the 3 first are completely out of sync while the 4th is somewhat in sync (some weird phasing that shouldn't happen when it's dead on.. and there are some unknown glitches too).

Render 1

Render 2

Render 3

Render 4 (this one is almost in sync)

And you can get the Reaper project file HERE.

Yeah, it's safe to say that "host synced" LFO's are a joke in Reaper at the moment. :cry:

NOTE: You'll need a copy of Spire and FF Twin to open the project. I'll continue experimenting with other synths and other hosts to see what's really going on. I have FL Studio and ReNoise tracker to test with. Man this is depressing. I always thought plugins were sample accurate in their entirety.

Cheers!
bManic
Hi bManic

I don't know if you're still reading this thread, but I've tried this (your experiment) in three different hosts now and my conclusion is that the LFO sync in Spire is the problem - not the hosts.

I used exactly the same conditions as you:

FF Twin 2
Spire
Metronome track - 128 BPM
8 bars MIDI notes C3 & C4
Your presets

Hosts used:

Reaper
Studio One
Cubase

Initial results showed that Reaper & Cubase couldn't provide accurate sync, but Studio One did 75% of the time.

HOWEVER... After checking the synths individually, I found that FF Twin 2 syncs perfectly every time in every host, but Spire only gets it right maybe 10% of the time.

It sounds like Spire's LFO is starting at a different point in the cycle each time.

I encourage others to repeat this experiment for further confirmation so the Spire devs can fix it.
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Andywanders wrote:
bmanic wrote:Well damn.. this all motivated me enough to get a quick and dirty custom FTP thingy running so that you can download the ridiculous examples here.

Here are 5 file. 4 renders and the actual reaper project.

I simply rendered the thing 4 times.. the 3 first are completely out of sync while the 4th is somewhat in sync (some weird phasing that shouldn't happen when it's dead on.. and there are some unknown glitches too).

Render 1

Render 2

Render 3

Render 4 (this one is almost in sync)

And you can get the Reaper project file HERE (http://www.badsauna.net/nikke/audiodemos/ReaperLFOtest.RPP).

Yeah, it's safe to say that "host synced" LFO's are a joke in Reaper at the moment. :cry:

NOTE: You'll need a copy of Spire and FF Twin to open the project. I'll continue experimenting with other synths and other hosts to see what's really going on. I have FL Studio and ReNoise tracker to test with. Man this is depressing. I always thought plugins were sample accurate in their entirety.

Cheers!
bManic
Hi bManic

I don't know if you're still reading this thread, but I've tried this (your experiment) in three different hosts now and my conclusion is that the LFO sync in Spire is the problem - not the hosts.

I used exactly the same conditions as you:

FF Twin 2
Spire
Metronome track - 128 BPM
8 bars MIDI notes C3 & C4
Your presets

Hosts used:

Reaper
Studio One
Cubase

Initial results showed that Reaper & Cubase couldn't provide accurate sync, but Studio One did 75% of the time.

HOWEVER... After checking the synths individually, I found that FF Twin 2 syncs perfectly every time in every host, but Spire only gets it right maybe 10% of the time.

It sounds like Spire's LFO is starting at a different point in the cycle each time.

I encourage others to repeat this experiment for further confirmation so the Spire devs can fix it.
This is not a bug. Just set the LFO Phase to 744 (starting point).
modified preset: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/280 ... 0Triol.spf (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/28083044/Synth%20Triol.spf)
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Thanks Vullcan. That works.

:)

Now if Spire gets CC64 and I get some spare cash, I'm gonna buy this.



Cheers
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