Precision Compressor / Limiter now available on T-RackS CS + AAX compatibility

[yevster]

Just curious... when SampleTank 3 comes out, will it use the same Player+Credits system as T-Racks and Amplitube? And if so, will the credits one buys today be applicable toward SampleTank 3 purchases? That could influence credit purchase decisions.

[yevster]

Have to say, I'm disappointed with this update.

First, the automation bugs in Studio One, that were present in all T-Racks plugins, have not been fixed. It is not possible to touch or move a control and then drag an envelope onto a track the way it works with every other effect from every other vendor. The "hard" parameter on British Channel's compressor is for some reason labeled "comp filter" in the parameter list shown by the DAW.

As for the new compressor, I found it extremely finicky, when it comes to the dynamic range of its input. I stuck it on a vocal, and even after leveling it off with RVox prior to the compressor, I found very difficult to get color out of the compressor without distorting. Also, I noticed the shell itself clips when reaching its 0db - not sure why that is when working with floating point audio streams.

I was enthusiastic about the updates and the additions to the T-Racks line. If nothing else, it suggests IK is in the pro audio game to stay. However, I have to join the chorus of others who suggest that the plugins and the platform aren't ready for seamless use.

[AC222]

Any more details about the modeling? Is there heavy physical modeling involved? The buzz around the Black 76 for instance is that the compression behavior is spot on but a bit more transparent than the real deal because the input section that contribute to harmonic content and distortion was not physically modeled. It would be nice to know more about the process involved.

I guess you didn't see that Black 76 and White 2A were updated a while ago to rectify this, we should have posted more about that but definitely let people here know... Our process is meticulous, when we model a real piece of hardware like this we use the real deal and we take it apart, analyze and measure everything, even repairing any issues on some of the vintage gear if it has any because we have people here who are qualified to do so... We even modeled a hand-built compressor made by one of our own for our Opto Compressor so that is truly one-of-a-kind and all of this contributes to how our modeling is top shelf.

Thanks for this. Normally I would be skeptical but have been really impressed with your releases that have come out the last two or three years. So you must be doing something different (in a good way) than before. The dynamics plugins seem to have a nice character, nail the behavior, and are able to do so without squashing the dynamics too much or imparting weird artifacts that most other digital compressors do.

I'll have to give this 33609 a go. The only thing that is stopping me is that I am scared my Custom Shop update is going to give me that infamous Run As Admin problem I had before. The last update I did seemed to fix this but I'm kind of scared I will have that problem once again after the last update fixed this error.

[Compyfox]

Hm.... the other thread brought me to this:
Sidechaining was always an issue so far with IKM. Meaning, basically nonexistent.

But pretty much all modern comps these days do have sidechaining. So does the 33609. I know that it's a bit different to pull of in the VST2 realm. But what about implementing Sidechain capabilities?


The competition (Slate) also doesn't have this, but if I want to use this comp on stereo busses, I also want a sidechain mode. So... any news about implementing that, or will it stay a plain "stereo compressor"?

Granted, the UAD version doesn't have Sidechaining either. But they have other features like "mono/stereo" and "Link/Unlink", or also control over the headroom (reference level).

But most important would be the Sidechain mode.

[budweiser]

If the original piece of hardware doesn't allow sidechaining and the emulation do, it's not a true emulation anymore...

[Compyfox]

Then please tell me what the "int/ext" button on the hardware is for:
Neve 33609 on Vintage King

[audiosabre]

So this is a buss compressor, this Neve? Or does it do other tricks?

[Compyfox]

Stereo compressors are usually declared as "bus compressors" (could we stop this double-s nonsense by now? Bus as in "data line" or "channel", to buss means: "to kiss playfully or rudely").


Doesn't mean that it can't be used on mono sources (individual channels), sub-groups, AUX channels or the summing bus.

In the end, it's just another compressor. Only the limited ammound (available units for your funds) somewhat declared what's "bus" and what's a "channel" comp.

I don't see any difference these days.

[budweiser]

Then please tell me what the "int/ext" button on the hardware is for:
Neve 33609 on Vintage King

I have absolutely no idea ! I was not meaning the hardware do not have sidechaining capabilities but only guessing (the uad nor the ik have sidechain implemented). But the reading of this article showed me i was wrong : http://vintageking.com/neve-33609-j-d-stereo-compressor

[kylen]

Stereo compressors are usually declared as "bus compressors" (could we stop this double-s nonsense by now? Bus as in "data line" or "channel", to buss means: "to kiss playfully or rudely").

Now here's something you don't usually get on a lot of audio forums...I had no idea you were thinking that when discussing a buss compressor, good to know!

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

Just curious... when SampleTank 3 comes out, will it use the same Player+Credits system as T-Racks and Amplitube? And if so, will the credits one buys today be applicable toward SampleTank 3 purchases? That could influence credit purchase decisions.

That hasn't been determined. We'll see by the end of the year... We're looking at the Custom Shop system now, well always, and will see if it will be brought to the next releases of products that don't have it and/or if there will be changes.

[Aiynzahev]

Tried it last night. My 2cents:

Awesome.

[Peter - IK Multimedia]

So this is a buss compressor, this Neve? Or does it do other tricks?

The original unit is popular as a bus compressor but it certainly can do much more than that. It isn't much used in mastering, but extremely popular when mixing on the 2track stereo bus (similarly to what our Bus Comp is typically used for).

[murnau]

Stereo compressors are usually declared as "bus compressors" (could we stop this double-s nonsense by now? Bus as in "data line" or "channel", to buss means: "to kiss playfully or rudely").

Now here's something you don't usually get on a lot of audio forums...I had no idea you were thinking that when discussing a buss compressor, good to know!

take care, next is plugin /plug-in..

[AC222]

Hm.... the other thread brought me to this:
Sidechaining was always an issue so far with IKM. Meaning, basically nonexistent.

But pretty much all modern comps these days do have sidechaining. So does the 33609. I know that it's a bit different to pull of in the VST2 realm. But what about implementing Sidechain capabilities?


The competition (Slate) also doesn't have this, but if I want to use this comp on stereo busses, I also want a sidechain mode. So... any news about implementing that, or will it stay a plain "stereo compressor"?

Granted, the UAD version doesn't have Sidechaining either. But they have other features like "mono/stereo" and "Link/Unlink", or also control over the headroom (reference level).

But most important would be the Sidechain mode.

Compyfox, the sound is really impressive. I would like a mix or blend knob if possible. That would really make me love something even more that I already love. But the Neve and SSL bus comp are now my two favorites!

Peter wrote me a nice long response about it that really piqued my interest and I ended up buying both last night as well as another bass and cab.