I was completely unaware when I installed it. Wouldn't have bothered, had I known. It really is that simple.BBFG# wrote:The very fact that you post all this shows you're completely aware of it. So either accept it or don't. It really is that simple.
Tone2 Firebird going Freeware
- KVRAF
- 5234 posts since 25 Feb, 2008
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- Banned
- 23 posts since 4 Aug, 2013
No offense, or take as much as you like - You're an idiot.BBFG# wrote:if your weren't fighting for the right to use illegal software.The Al1en wrote: Indeed, imagine being a straight white male and not being allowed to oppose racism, sexism and homophobia.
- KVRAF
- 4801 posts since 1 Aug, 2005 from Warszawa, Poland
In this case an analogy I see is: while you're out to diner, you are being paid a visit by a robot, who goes through your stuff, decides what items lawfully belong to you and takes away those, who it decides you should not have. You are being tested, accused, tried and judged... by a robot... not even knowing about it... not to mention being able to defend yourself.streifentier wrote:You wouldn't say that a bank accuses their customers of being potential robbers because they have cameras running?
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- KVRAF
- 9100 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Numanoid wrote:To put this kind of logic in perspective: Seems the only people who don't like NSA got something to hide?BBFG# wrote:Seems like the only people that would be enraged by such actions are the ones that use or want to use illegal Tone2 software.
The DOD/DIS have been in my life knowingly since 1986, so yeah, I have no reason to be concerned with the NSA. Do you?
- KVRian
- 504 posts since 11 May, 2006 from Northern Germany
Well, my example wasn't perfect. Yours isn't either, I guess, so let's say the robot searches you (completely, including underwear) for stolen food when you leave the restaurant. I agree that this wouldn't be very much to my taste, even if there was a small-printed sign about it at the entrance ...Zombie Queen wrote:In this case an analogy I see is: while you're out to diner, you are being paid a visit by a robot, who goes through your stuff, decides what items lawfully belong to you and takes away those, who it decides you should not have. You are being tested, accused, tried and judged... by a robot... not even knowing about it... not to mention being able to defend yourself.streifentier wrote:You wouldn't say that a bank accuses their customers of being potential robbers because they have cameras running?
- Banned
- 23 posts since 4 Aug, 2013
And you must be the idiot's apprenticexamido wrote:Congrats for the great reply. You're an amazing human being.The Al1en wrote: No offense, or take as much as you like - You're an idiot.
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- KVRian
- 1391 posts since 1 May, 2010
Except the item belongs to the robot in the first place. You are only licensed and allowed by the robot to use the item.Zombie Queen wrote:
In this case an analogy I see is: while you're out to diner, you are being paid a visit by a robot, who goes through your stuff, decides what items lawfully belong to you and takes away those, who it decides you should not have. You are being tested, accused, tried and judged... by a robot... not even knowing about it... not to mention being able to defend yourself.
musisikamar.com
- KVRian
- 966 posts since 16 Feb, 2010

- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Bastiaan already posted how the installer works which is how i guessed it would work.
It's not like this was not already discussed multiple times.
For me this thread seems to be "lost" which is a shame as it's about a freeware synth. There seem to be a lot of speculations and no real proof of really existing problems related to the installer.
While Beta testing Rayblster and Nemesis i had do de-install and re-install the plugins many times and no problems found based on the installers. Same about the other products.
I already have bad feelings about the time when the upcoming Tone2 Nemesis FM synth will be released.
Tone2 have great products and a very simple copy protection (key file) but people seem to prefer to discuss about BS when talking about them.
Seen the same about Saurus and Rayblaster in the past and some time later poeple discovered that those are quite cool (which they are).
Ingo
It's not like this was not already discussed multiple times.
For me this thread seems to be "lost" which is a shame as it's about a freeware synth. There seem to be a lot of speculations and no real proof of really existing problems related to the installer.
While Beta testing Rayblster and Nemesis i had do de-install and re-install the plugins many times and no problems found based on the installers. Same about the other products.
I already have bad feelings about the time when the upcoming Tone2 Nemesis FM synth will be released.
Tone2 have great products and a very simple copy protection (key file) but people seem to prefer to discuss about BS when talking about them.
Seen the same about Saurus and Rayblaster in the past and some time later poeple discovered that those are quite cool (which they are).
Ingo
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Ingo Weidner
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1
Win 10 Home 64-bit / mobile i7-7700HQ 2.8 GHz / 16GB RAM //
Live 10 Suite / Cubase Pro 9.5 / Pro Tools Ultimate 2021 // NI Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk1
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- KVRAF
- 9100 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Did it cause a problem?hakey wrote:I was completely unaware when I installed it. Wouldn't have bothered, had I known. It really is that simple.BBFG# wrote:The very fact that you post all this shows you're completely aware of it. So either accept it or don't. It really is that simple.
Or did it just stir some paranoia?
Once you uninstalled it, has a problem occurred?
Be done and move on.
- Banned
- 23 posts since 4 Aug, 2013
Lower than most, I suspect, but how about you show me where I've fought for the right to use illegal software.xamido wrote:Go on, i want to see how low can you go.The Al1en wrote:
And you must be the idiots apprentice
When you can't, idiot, you know what to do.
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Dean Aka Nekro Dean Aka Nekro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=162100
- KVRAF
- 6178 posts since 4 Oct, 2007 from Escaped At Last
BBFG# wrote:Seems like the only people that would be enraged by such actions are the ones that use or want to use illegal Tone2 software. And since all they are doing is telling us who they are in their attacks on what is now a well known policy by these threads (above and beyond the print in EULA). Why argue with them? Instead we should thank them for identifying themselves as the very people Tone2 wishes to protect themself from. The deception revealed, is only theirs, not Tone2.
- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
No, go ahead and scan, I couldn't care less.BBFG# wrote:The DOD/DIS have been in my life knowingly since 1986, so yeah, I have no reason to be concerned with the NSA. Do you?
99,9% of all stuff gathered by the scanners is dead boring, like discussion about what most people are having for dinner, or to remember to buy tooth paste.
But in my opinion people got the right to keep that to themselves anyhow
