Improvements!

[abique]

Iirc he said (in an interview, somewhere) that most of his sounds that people think were made with Massive, were actually made with FM8 or (Live's) Operator.

Guess he hasn't discovered Bazille yet.

I haven't used Bazille yet, but what are the most important differences between Bazille and ACE?

[tomtoo]

Massive arguably has a claim to being the definitive EDM plugin. A different paradigm, but some of the modern EDM tropes - all that orrible crunchy Skrillex stuff, for example - would be difficult or impossible with a Sylenth-like synth.

Hmmm, when I listen to that stuff I don't hear many synths. It's more like people trying to use drum samples to immitate the sound of a vintage 56k modem negotiating a connection

Looks like 56k modem sounds are not allowed from gema in germany.

[Urs]

Iirc he said (in an interview, somewhere) that most of his sounds that people think were made with Massive, were actually made with FM8 or (Live's) Operator.

Guess he hasn't discovered Bazille yet.

I haven't used Bazille yet, but what are the most important differences between Bazille and ACE?

ACE is a modular virtual analogue synthesizer, Bazille is a modular FM and PD synth. Different synthesis concepts, similar concept of workflow and interface.

[Howard]

Although they are both members of the "Berlin Modular" family...

1) Bazille's oscillators are based on PD, FM and Fractal resonance, not analogue and 2) Bazille has twice as many oscillators / filters / envelopes / multiples / Mapping Generators, plus more flexible effects (not to mention several modulation processors - quantizer, lag generators etc.).

[Edit: Urs beat me to it, but I said more ]

[Urs]

Looks like 56k modem sounds are not allowed from gema in germany.

Hehehe, Gema has nothing against Youtube streaming it. Youtube is just afraid that they might have to spend more than 0.1 cent or so per view. Which would mean that presumably the biggest data mining and social research facility in the world would possibly cost its owners a tiny percentage of the revenue generated with that knowledge.

Isn't it too funny how the biggest corporation that profits from copyright infringement is on the... ah, I digress, nevermind.

[hakey]

Hmmm, when I listen to that stuff I don't hear many synths. It's more like people trying to use drum samples to immitate the sound of a vintage 56k modem negotiating a connection

Know what you mean but, like it or loathe it, that sound is very much under the EDM umbrella.

According to this interview, Skrillex claims to use Massive and FM8.

[tomtoo]

Looks like 56k modem sounds are not allowed from gema in germany.

Hehehe, Gema has nothing against Youtube streaming it. Youtube is just afraid that they might have to spend more than 0.1 cent or so per view. Which would mean that presumably the biggest data mining and social research facility in the world would possibly cost its owners a tiny percentage of the revenue generated with that knowledge.

Isn't it too funny how the biggest corporation that profits from copyright infringement is on the... ah, I digress, nevermind.

NO prob i just dont see that that is a dedmau5 song ?

Is it ?

The title sayd somethink like.
Deadmau5 gives feedback to YOUR music.

So i dont know.
How should i know i cant see it.

Btw: Why you can see it ? Not in germany at the moment ?

[Urs]

Looks like 56k modem sounds are not allowed from gema in germany.

Hehehe, Gema has nothing against Youtube streaming it. Youtube is just afraid that they might have to spend more than 0.1 cent or so per view. Which would mean that presumably the biggest data mining and social research facility in the world would possibly cost its owners a tiny percentage of the revenue generated with that knowledge.

Isn't it too funny how the biggest corporation that profits from copyright infringement is on the... ah, I digress, nevermind.

NO prob i just dont see that that is a dedmau5 song ?

Is it ?

The title sayd somethink like.
Deadmau5 gives feedback to YOUR music.

So i dont know.
How should i know i cant see it.

Btw: Why you can see it ? Not in germany at the moment ?

Nah, I can't see it either. But I'm in Spain next week, I might have a look then.

[tomtoo]

Looks like 56k modem sounds are not allowed from gema in germany.

Hehehe, Gema has nothing against Youtube streaming it. Youtube is just afraid that they might have to spend more than 0.1 cent or so per view. Which would mean that presumably the biggest data mining and social research facility in the world would possibly cost its owners a tiny percentage of the revenue generated with that knowledge.

Isn't it too funny how the biggest corporation that profits from copyright infringement is on the... ah, I digress, nevermind.

NO prob i just dont see that that is a dedmau5 song ?

Is it ?

The title sayd somethink like.
Deadmau5 gives feedback to YOUR music.

So i dont know.
How should i know i cant see it.

Btw: Why you can see it ? Not in germany at the moment ?

Nah, I can't see it either. But I'm in Spain next week, I might have a look then.

[Urs]

Hmmm, when I listen to that stuff I don't hear many synths. It's more like people trying to use drum samples to immitate the sound of a vintage 56k modem negotiating a connection

Know what you mean but, like it or loathe it, that sound is very much under the EDM umbrella.

According to this interview, Skrillex claims to use Massive and FM8.

Maybe we'll invest a Saturday and put that sound into our weekend project EDM synth as well. That should make it The Definite Choice™ then.

[Urs]

(After a minute of contemplation, I'm only half joking)

[Frantz]

An easy way to open a filter fully from the user's side is to apply a little resonance, just below the point of a frequency boost. That should work for any filter that goes up to about 20kHz. Or, a developer could "fake" fully open by adding a little resonance automatically.

Could a filter bypass option be added? It seems simpler than faking it.

[Urs]

An easy way to open a filter fully from the user's side is to apply a little resonance, just below the point of a frequency boost. That should work for any filter that goes up to about 20kHz. Or, a developer could "fake" fully open by adding a little resonance automatically.

Could a filter bypass option be added? It seems simpler than faking it.

In which synth?

IIRC only Diva and FilterscapeVA have hardwired filters. Well, that hypothetical supersaw & modem synth would certainly have a bypass option.

[Frantz]

In which synth?

I don't know. It was a general question after reading this thread and not something that I actually want or need. I like my sounds filtered and dark-ish.

I also realize the open filter might still add some "magic" to the sound that would be missing when bypassed.

[Stollmeister]

Well, that hypothetical supersaw & modem synth would certainly have a bypass option.

And there is the name? "SnM Synth" aka "Supersaw & Modem Synth"!