help for everyone!(chords quality:))
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
I haven't said anything about god just to save this thread from the claws of HPC. But it should have been in HPC right from the start, anyway, as it seems to be a fun thread and obviously wasn't meant to be serious.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Well, a thread making extraordinary claims about A=432hz goes there but quick, and the same implication is here, if not at once but we see where the OP was really coming from; such as your link re Chakras, Tricky, would likely get a reaction out of Meffy if no one else.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I dunno, I think it's been interesting because it broaches the subject of perception in music as well...as far as the religious stuff, that doesn't matter until someone else decides to come along and argue...remember it takes moe than one person to argue, just let it roll off your back and move on (if this forum had a mod it just be split off and be done with).Tricky-Loops wrote:I haven't said anything about god just to save this thread from the claws of HPC. But it should have been in HPC right from the start, anyway, as it seems to be a fun thread and obviously wasn't meant to be serious.
Back to the former though, I do see things in my own warped way and it's interesting to read threads like this because we can all look at the same view but see it from different angles. I did write a song (The Whisper which was on the Katrina relief CD) that I used Dm for just to try and get the emotional response commonly associated with with Dm. (I even tuned my guitar to Dm) It actually did indeed get the feel I wanted but that is how I perceived it which undoubtedly was skewed by my own personal involvement with the song. In other words it sounded that way to me because that's how I wrote it.
When it comes to music theory there is so much that is definitive and needs to be that way...it's nice to talk about the abstract part which imho is a key part of music as well...so I guess what I am saying is a fun thread can be very informative too for som.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Blaming me for everything is what you've always done. My link was about the link between MUSICAL notes and Chakras and it was absolutely conform to the subject of this thread.jancivil wrote:Well, a thread making extraordinary claims about A=432hz goes there but quick, and the same implication is here, if not at once but we see where the OP was really coming from; such as your link re Chakras, Tricky, would likely get a reaction out of Meffy if no one else.
But I won't respond to any of your posts anymore!
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I'm not blaming you for anything at all here! What would I be blaming you for? (I would tend to hold a person responsible for their own remarks if you want to rehash history. Way to make something about you, though.) That link simply illustrates how this would, under Meffy, seem to be tracking to HPC. My take on where it would go was accurate enough.
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- KVRian
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- 535 posts since 25 Nov, 2010
i got same problem.. drink simple wather:DDjancivil wrote:Oh, where is Meffy when you need her. Let's do get this thing to HPC where it belongs. And here's me thinking the problem was too much acid, and dehydration.
trust analog.... (owner of digital)
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
is pretty much like the claims for A=432 tuning. just saying. it isn't up to me, I don't care, a whole lot of stuff takes up space here. I have a sarcastic attitude about this thread, so what.Tricky-Loops wrote:the link between MUSICAL notes and Chakras
Try meditation, could make this easier for you.
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- KVRAF
- 7837 posts since 20 Jan, 2008
Here's the thing.....
Hink you think this thread is a joke
IRL I've known quite a number of new musicians who can recite theory and for all the want in the world there is no passion in there playing. My heart goes out to them because I understand that at least for me music is about personal expression. When they to autochord their way through life they are dually frustrated with the lack of emotive qualities because they believe that it is wholly supplied by automation and frustrated in their own performance simply because they have no sense of intimacy with their instrument. They have an "Ic can't do that I'll run away" ideology as opposed to...I might not be able to do something now but if I apply myself I could do it later and get better in the process of applying myself.
I'm not against technology in fact I'm an advocate of it. However, I do see where the illusion of the ghost in the machine will somehow find a direct neural connection to the content creator is greatly misguided. Theory doesn't solve all. Theory is part of the equation and interpretation through performance is the other part. Generally speaking those that have the greater mastery of their instrument in the expressive control through performance not automation are the ones that bring music to life and play to their full potential.
Hink you think this thread is a joke
IRL I've known quite a number of new musicians who can recite theory and for all the want in the world there is no passion in there playing. My heart goes out to them because I understand that at least for me music is about personal expression. When they to autochord their way through life they are dually frustrated with the lack of emotive qualities because they believe that it is wholly supplied by automation and frustrated in their own performance simply because they have no sense of intimacy with their instrument. They have an "Ic can't do that I'll run away" ideology as opposed to...I might not be able to do something now but if I apply myself I could do it later and get better in the process of applying myself.
I'm not against technology in fact I'm an advocate of it. However, I do see where the illusion of the ghost in the machine will somehow find a direct neural connection to the content creator is greatly misguided. Theory doesn't solve all. Theory is part of the equation and interpretation through performance is the other part. Generally speaking those that have the greater mastery of their instrument in the expressive control through performance not automation are the ones that bring music to life and play to their full potential.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
where on earth did I say it was a joke? What did I do dude...you got the wrong persontapper mike wrote:Here's the thing.....
Hink you think this thread is a joke
IRL I've known quite a number of new musicians who can recite theory and for all the want in the world there is no passion in there playing. My heart goes out to them because I understand that at least for me music is about personal expression. When they to autochord their way through life they are dually frustrated with the lack of emotive qualities because they believe that it is wholly supplied by automation and frustrated in their own performance simply because they have no sense of intimacy with their instrument. They have an "Ic can't do that I'll run away" ideology as opposed to...I might not be able to do something now but if I apply myself I could do it later and get better in the process of applying myself.
I'm not against technology in fact I'm an advocate of it. However, I do see where the illusion of the ghost in the machine will somehow find a direct neural connection to the content creator is greatly misguided. Theory doesn't solve all. Theory is part of the equation and interpretation through performance is the other part. Generally speaking those that have the greater mastery of their instrument in the expressive control through performance not automation are the ones that bring music to life and play to their full potential.
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
That has to be a typographical error. EDIT: or posted in the wrong thread.
I think the notion of a direct correspondence of a particular chord in itself with a particular extramusical phenomenon is strange; and here we had whole lists, illustrating an absurdity which is funny to me and evidently others with a similar sense of humor.
You look at a chord 'in itself'; is it going to be voiced this one way every time? Is the 'color' of the orchestration just this one thing all the time? Are all of the notes in it always the same level in relationship, are they all struck at once, or is it the same broken chord with the same rhythm? To define a chord this narrowly, which I think you have to do to make a correspondence with another thing, doesn't work, does it.
Particulary as per texture, the weight of voicing and the instruments playing it: how is it one color? This chord/this key, means 'this emotion'. D minor is the saddest key. It's ridiculous.
I don't know from synasthesia from any experience. I took a lot of acid as a teen and I saw a lot of colors and other visual stuff move with music. I don't come away from it with 'Bb = blue' particularly, but synasthesia? I can't say someone doesn't have that go on.
As a topic in music theory, well, it's a red herring, talking about it isn't going to move you forward at all I don't think. Sorry if this burst anyone's bubble, don't mind me or my opinion, at the end of the day we can disengage.
I think the notion of a direct correspondence of a particular chord in itself with a particular extramusical phenomenon is strange; and here we had whole lists, illustrating an absurdity which is funny to me and evidently others with a similar sense of humor.
You look at a chord 'in itself'; is it going to be voiced this one way every time? Is the 'color' of the orchestration just this one thing all the time? Are all of the notes in it always the same level in relationship, are they all struck at once, or is it the same broken chord with the same rhythm? To define a chord this narrowly, which I think you have to do to make a correspondence with another thing, doesn't work, does it.
Particulary as per texture, the weight of voicing and the instruments playing it: how is it one color? This chord/this key, means 'this emotion'. D minor is the saddest key. It's ridiculous.
I don't know from synasthesia from any experience. I took a lot of acid as a teen and I saw a lot of colors and other visual stuff move with music. I don't come away from it with 'Bb = blue' particularly, but synasthesia? I can't say someone doesn't have that go on.
As a topic in music theory, well, it's a red herring, talking about it isn't going to move you forward at all I don't think. Sorry if this burst anyone's bubble, don't mind me or my opinion, at the end of the day we can disengage.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
One just needs to look at the replies of the OP that this thread would have gone to HPC much earlier...psychoxkps wrote:no, love is in d.... if u dont belive to my previous examples i just can try to assume you this way....
u know drum and bass....
much of dnb songs r using samples "white power"
what u think white power means.. kill blacks peoples or use ephedrine....
ephedrine....
they making world think different(like name of good marijuana strain) and changing nacist to use some white stuff instead of killing blacks.... u know.... thats key d.... if u dont belive pythagoras u must be very original..
