KVR Audio

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:23 am

recursive one wrote:It seems that everybody in this world but me has already tested Satin. I don't own the Slate's tape thingy, but I wonder how good Satin is compared to TB Reelbus. I don't care much about authenticity, what I use the Reelbus for is to soften transients and add some low-mid warmth on 2buss so I wonder whether Satin can do the same thing but with better quality (that is, better enough to justify the price gap) and also whether it is more CPU efficient (Reelbus is a considerable hog at my system and it keeps me from using Reelbus on tracks, I have to replace it with VoS Ferric which I like less soundwise).

If you find Reelbus to cpu intensive then you won't find Satin better. Reelbus is just a bit less than Satin, around 4% in an empty Ableton project, where Satin is about 5%.

TheoM wrote: Reelbuss vs satin is like comparing ren verb to lex/exponential audio. There's no comparison.

I don't agree. Nothing beats the TB Reelbus Old and Rusty algorithm for wow & flutter. But I like that obvious effect.

recursive one · Post by **recursive one** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:42 am

TheoM wrote:
recursive one wrote:It seems that everybody in this world but me has already tested Satin. I don't own the Slate's tape thingy, but I wonder how good Satin is compared to TB Reelbus. I don't care much about authenticity, what I use the Reelbus for is to soften transients and add some low-mid warmth on 2buss so I wonder whether Satin can do the same thing but with better quality (that is, better enough to justify the price gap) and also whether it is more CPU efficient (Reelbus is a considerable hog at my system and it keeps me from using Reelbus on tracks, I have to replace it with VoS Ferric which I like less soundwise).
Reelbuss vs satin is like comparing ren verb to lex/exponential audio. There's no comparison.

Tonight I tried Satin myself. I have no idea WTF is ren verb and neither do I have anything lexicon or exponential audio (Valhala does it for me) but I have to say that I liked Satin waaaaaay better than Reelbus, not to say Ferric. I'm sure it's not just novelty effect. The presets called "mastering" or like that are really in place at 2buss and the true magic starts when running drumloops at hot levels and messing when encoders - instant Prodigy or 90' jungle. I failed badly trying to get the same feel from Reelbus.

Before Satin I thought that Reelbus is good ...

Dear Urs, please, don't release Diva 1.3 in September. I cannot afford buying both at the same month.

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:48 am

TheoM wrote:
recursive one wrote:It seems that everybody in this world but me has already tested Satin. I don't own the Slate's tape thingy, but I wonder how good Satin is compared to TB Reelbus. I don't care much about authenticity, what I use the Reelbus for is to soften transients and add some low-mid warmth on 2buss so I wonder whether Satin can do the same thing but with better quality (that is, better enough to justify the price gap) and also whether it is more CPU efficient (Reelbus is a considerable hog at my system and it keeps me from using Reelbus on tracks, I have to replace it with VoS Ferric which I like less soundwise).
Reelbuss vs satin is like comparing ren verb to lex/exponential audio. There's no comparison.

ren verb is pretty good imo, I own lex too

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:55 am

recursive one wrote: Dear Urs, please, don't release Diva 1.3 in September.

Tp3 · Post by **Tp3** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:41 am

cryophonik wrote:
recursive one wrote: Dear Urs, please, don't release Diva 1.3 in September.

Well, now I understand what the tern "Hot Signals" mean...

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:44 am

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momalle3 · Post by **momalle3** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:22 am

I tried Satin on a mix, just the saturation feature, and instantly loved it and almost as instantly bought it. I'm not ready to sell Slate VTM just yet, but my first thought was "wow, this just rendered VTM obsolete." It's that good

Then I tried Satin as a delay unit.. Wow! Very cool. So now I'm thinking I can replace Echoboy and VTM with one plug in and be 100% ILOK free.

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:28 pm

Btw. it seems that Rec EQ to "flat" and Repro EQ to "IEC 15ips" comes near to the Slate VTM 2" 1/2" track/FG9 tape 32ips. But it cannot be completely matched (phase canceled) because there are too many different variables.

giankam · Post by **giankam** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:28 pm

Where are the presets in the demo?

Vertti · Post by **Vertti** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:47 pm

giankam wrote:Where are the presets in the demo?

You should find them easily. Are you sure you clicked the preset box in the install phase?

J4R1O · Post by **J4R1O** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 4:40 pm

TheoM wrote:I'm working on making satin sound like VTM right now. The demo crackle I getting in my way but I will get there eventually. Next payday can not come soon enough!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:53 pm

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4damind · Post by **4damind** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:56 pm

I installed the Satin Beta again to give it another try.
It seems that the demo limitations are a lot heavier after 2min. So I tried to open and export it as quick as possible

This is a small track I made (but not finished yet) and where I put 10x Satin on it with settings relatively close to Slate VTM. Drums and stuff are grouped so I need only 10x Satin (the song has some more tracks).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/854 ... in_mix.mp3

Rusty Cadillac · Post by **Rusty Cadillac** » Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:27 pm

No idea how VTM sounds as I avoid iLok on my rigs. I have other contenders, including a well stocked UA2. Re: Satin. Tried it, loved it, bought it.

Worked fine using Samplitude Pro X, latest version. I pulled up a variety of tracks recorded/mixed over the last decade, various projects. Did nothing fancy, just dropped it in across all channels, tweaked it. Sounded great. Dropped it on the master, tweaked it, sounded great. Props to all.

Oh... I got a kick out of seeing this word used: Asperity.

u-he Satin or Slate VTM?