Are there songs made with MVocoder?
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
I'm thinking about buying MVocoder. But I've read that it isn't the most straightforward vocoder and needs some training to get the most out of it...
While I'm ready to invest some (months) time, I don't want to need years to learn how to use MVocoder...
Are there people who have processed vocals with MVocoder with great results? What's your experience? Did you even make a whole song with MVocoder?
Would be nice to hear some sound examples or songs...
While I'm ready to invest some (months) time, I don't want to need years to learn how to use MVocoder...
Are there people who have processed vocals with MVocoder with great results? What's your experience? Did you even make a whole song with MVocoder?
Would be nice to hear some sound examples or songs...
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
There should be some video tutorials pretty soon
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It may not be exactly simple, but quite frankly all vocoders are complicated, mostly by the fact that you need side-chaining.
It may not be exactly simple, but quite frankly all vocoders are complicated, mostly by the fact that you need side-chaining.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Sidechaining isn't a problem for me, at least not in REAPER...MeldaProduction wrote:There should be some video tutorials pretty soon.
It may not be exactly simple, but quite frankly all vocoders are complicated, mostly by the fact that you need side-chaining.
But something like Vocodex from ImageLine looks much better and easier to handle than MVocoder.
You're always trying to put the most features into the narrowest space which is great for audio-freaks and audio-geeks (endless modulation possibilities etc.) but sometimes a lighter, simpler solution with a more appealing GUI would be more popular...
On the other side, I appreciate that every effect has the same GUI, so if you understand one GUI, you understand all GUIs.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Do you think it's harder to handle? it always seemed to me pretty similar? And the advanced features are hidden from the users sight.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Aren't there any people here who have made a song with MVocoder and could show what it's capable of? 
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
I don't think they'll respond hereTricky-Loops wrote:Aren't there any people here who have made a song with MVocoder and could show what it's capable of?
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- KVRian
- 1256 posts since 15 Mar, 2007 from Yorkshire, England
I use it a lot and once you learn how to set it up it is very easy to use. There are a number of presets as well to get you started. I searched for a decent vocoder for a while and this was the best of the ones I tested
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Why don't they respond? Is MVocoder used in military circles? Is it top secret?MeldaProduction wrote:I don't think they'll respond hereTricky-Loops wrote:Aren't there any people here who have made a song with MVocoder and could show what it's capable of?. Btw. why you want a vocoder? Usually one needs a reason to play with a tool, here I'm not sure what exactly you are after.
What I'm after? I want to have a vocoder that is easy & usable but has many features. For example, I tried the (free) Vocov 2 by g200kg which is not bad but I think I deserve a better one...
MVocoder may have more than 2 millions modulations possibilities but I'm searching for a vocoder which outputs great sounds, that's why I wanted people to post audio EXAMPLES of what great sounds they've achieved with MVocoder.
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- KVRAF
- 7042 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from france
It's a good one.
It is indeed a very "open" plugin, not focused on reproducing any vintage analogue gear, it's really up to you to set it up.
I managed to make it sound really interesting (mainly by tweaking the bands and thanks to the many parameters), but i haven't recorded anything with it yet (well, i processed some drums, recorded some vocals using it, but it never get to any internet audience yet).
i wish it could have an embedded chorus and overdrive (for more straight vintage flavour -a SVC350 without chorus is not really a svc350 for instance-), but it already has quite a lot of useful stuff... plus many others that i may use one day... or not (like a zillion modulations)
Did you try TAL's vocoder ? It is more straight-forward (and free).
I also like Pif's Vokoder, as a free one. It is very intelligible.
The Melda is not the quickest workflow-wise, but i really enjoy it and now it is my go-to choice (while mixing ITB).
It is indeed a very "open" plugin, not focused on reproducing any vintage analogue gear, it's really up to you to set it up.
I managed to make it sound really interesting (mainly by tweaking the bands and thanks to the many parameters), but i haven't recorded anything with it yet (well, i processed some drums, recorded some vocals using it, but it never get to any internet audience yet).
i wish it could have an embedded chorus and overdrive (for more straight vintage flavour -a SVC350 without chorus is not really a svc350 for instance-), but it already has quite a lot of useful stuff... plus many others that i may use one day... or not (like a zillion modulations)
Did you try TAL's vocoder ? It is more straight-forward (and free).
I also like Pif's Vokoder, as a free one. It is very intelligible.
The Melda is not the quickest workflow-wise, but i really enjoy it and now it is my go-to choice (while mixing ITB).
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Well, there are quite a few examples on the website:
http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/ ... d=MVocoder
But your definition of what you want isn't exactly self-explaining. Most people used vocoders just for robotic voices, nothing new really. But what you need to understand is that you need a specific signal fed into the MVocoder's side-chain, that's what changes the audio the most. Then you can start playing with some advanced features. But in most cases you can stay with the presets anyway, the are dozens of them...
Anyway video tutorials should be available soon.
http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/ ... d=MVocoder
But your definition of what you want isn't exactly self-explaining. Most people used vocoders just for robotic voices, nothing new really. But what you need to understand is that you need a specific signal fed into the MVocoder's side-chain, that's what changes the audio the most. Then you can start playing with some advanced features. But in most cases you can stay with the presets anyway, the are dozens of them...
Anyway video tutorials should be available soon.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Robotic voices are the main thing what I intent to do with it but I think vocoders can even be used for many other purposes, for example drums.MeldaProduction wrote:But your definition of what you want isn't exactly self-explaining. Most people used vocoders just for robotic voices, nothing new really.
I know how they work, that's not the problem. I just wanted to hear SONGS made with MVocoder, so that I can see how good (or bad) MVocoder works in musical contexts (not only on vocals).
@sinkmusic
Thanks for the suggestion of the TAL Vocoder, I'll test it. So far I've only used the Vocov 2 by g200kg...
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
People seem to be so stressed with exploring the 2 millions of modulation possibilities of MVocoder that they don't succeed in making a whole song with it... 
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- KVRAF
- 2807 posts since 8 Sep, 2009
Come on, it's 15 Euro at the moment... 
You can't go wrong.
I've loaded MVocoder for 30min to play with it and I see no quality difference compared to Vocodex. I also have the ELS Vocoder but the times I've been interested in vocoding are gone since years...
Remember: the carrier sound also play an important role. I used Omnisphere to make this short test and switched through various pads while keeping the same MVocoder preset. Another "world" with every single sound, so to speak.
One thing though that irritates a lot is the preset settings: if you drop the plugin on a vocal track (the usual behaviour I'd say) you have to switch carrier and modulator source with every preset because by default the voice is the carrier...
You can't go wrong.
I've loaded MVocoder for 30min to play with it and I see no quality difference compared to Vocodex. I also have the ELS Vocoder but the times I've been interested in vocoding are gone since years...
Remember: the carrier sound also play an important role. I used Omnisphere to make this short test and switched through various pads while keeping the same MVocoder preset. Another "world" with every single sound, so to speak.
One thing though that irritates a lot is the preset settings: if you drop the plugin on a vocal track (the usual behaviour I'd say) you have to switch carrier and modulator source with every preset because by default the voice is the carrier...
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
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- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Tricky-loops: I cannot help you with that I'm afraid. But I think that's not really the way to go - asking for a song to judge a plugin seems not really logical, as the whole mix can make everything completely different... Why don't you just download the demo, plug it in a load a few presets? That will take you 5 minutes and you can immediately compare it to other vocoders
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Nobody is asking you to use the modulation possibilities, but it's certainly useful to have them
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elassi: About the workflow - I'm don't really think it can be changed now, all settings except for the globals (upsampling..) are stored in the presets. But I still wonder, why do you use it this way? I'd suppose one would put MVocoder onto a synth track and just sent vocals (or anything) to it via side-chain. Well, both approaches are exactly the same, it's just that it seems the opposite feel natural for the 2 of us
, so I'm trying to understand.
Nobody is asking you to use the modulation possibilities, but it's certainly useful to have them
elassi: About the workflow - I'm don't really think it can be changed now, all settings except for the globals (upsampling..) are stored in the presets. But I still wonder, why do you use it this way? I'd suppose one would put MVocoder onto a synth track and just sent vocals (or anything) to it via side-chain. Well, both approaches are exactly the same, it's just that it seems the opposite feel natural for the 2 of us
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- KVRAF
- 2807 posts since 8 Sep, 2009
Guess it's a question of habits. I (mentally) connect this FX to a voice so I always used Vocoders on the vocal track and fed the synth through the side chain.
You see it the opposite way.
There's no need for a debate because there's no right or wrong in it.
You see it the opposite way.
There's no need for a debate because there's no right or wrong in it.
