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RexXx · Post by **RexXx** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:11 pm

chk071 wrote:...there are the "smaller" versions, Artist and Elements, which are quite reasonably priced.

Not so nice,
Cubase Studio (now called Artist) can only upgraded to Cubase7 full not to Artist 7! While Artist 6 can upgraded to Cubase 7 full or Artist 7.

budweiser · Post by **budweiser** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:44 pm

join and protest :
http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 81&t=47558

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:51 pm

budweiser wrote:join and protest :
http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 81&t=47558

not really, my lifetime is to precious to fight for a fair price with this id**ts. i simply dont support them anymore. bye bye steinberg!

fandango · Post by **fandango** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:38 pm

5Lives wrote:
fandango wrote:Quick Q: Does Logic have Retrospective MIDI Record (or "Score Log" in FL Studio). It's the main way I compose and capture ideas and, given I'm moving to Mac, I might as well look into Logic in lieu of the new Steinberg pricing structure.
Yes it does.

Thank you.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:37 pm

budweiser wrote:join and protest :
http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 81&t=47558

Poll options: "I'm starting right now learning Reaper", "that's ok" and "Not expensive enough, but can the cubase 8 box be gilded in the fine gold ?"

Wonder if anyone thinks Steinberg will give a flying sh** about that thread. Sorry. Btw, there is a much, much better and more efficient way to protest against the upgrade price. Just don't upgrade. How difficult is that. Doh...

ZINO · Post by **ZINO** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:57 pm

"We need another paid point release ASAP!!!"

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:09 pm

Glad I haven't registered my v7 Artist copy.. and won't.. until 7.5 is released and I'm in the window to get it for 'free.' Even if that takes several months.. the rent is too high!!

yevster · Post by **yevster** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:11 pm

To be perfectly honest, I don't mind paying extra for a product that is well-featured, stable, and reliable. I've had horrible stability issues with Sonar, even worse stability and performance issues with Studio One, and very few issues with Cubase. Maybe this is because aside from vocals, every track in every project I do is a softsynth based on technology that Steinberg has pioneered.

Add to that reliability the pop-up channel window with the most important processors already in there - the workflow becomes very hard to compete with.

To me, an extra hundred bucks is a reasonable price to pay for all that. I realize, others' mileage may vary by a few light years. And if Cubase doesn't work for you, don't buy it. But if it does, and if it works well - I don't see the need for greed.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:12 pm

chk071 wrote:
budweiser wrote:join and protest :
http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtop ... 81&t=47558
Poll options: "I'm starting right now learning Reaper", "that's ok" and "Not expensive enough, but can the cubase 8 box be gilded in the fine gold ?"

Wonder if anyone thinks Steinberg will give a flying sh** about that thread. Sorry. Btw, there is a much, much better and more efficient way to protest against the upgrade price. Just don't upgrade. How difficult is that. Doh...

Yes the options on the poll seem counter intuitive to me.. they'd probably get a better reaction if they simply had options 'too expensive, not buying upgrade' 'price is fine, will upgrade' 'price too low, will upgrade' or the like.

Oh, and actually followed up with action for the option they chose..

THIS part is crucial..

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:20 pm

VitaminD wrote: Oh, and actually followed up with action for the option they chose.. THIS part is crucial..

Exactly. Because otherwise it's just agitating, and drooling over agreement. And i didn't think the "Use Reaper" argument was such a common thing, that it turns up in the Steinberg forum now too.

Alfalfa · Post by **Alfalfa** » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:23 pm

Another option for a poll should be "willing to pay if the upgrade is actually worth the new amount." Sure I'll pay $200 to upgrade from 6.5 if it finally includes the long-promised multi-out instrument tracks, as well as dockable windows. Add in Logic's per-region looping and I'd think I'd died and gone to DAW heaven. Their track record of late tells me none of this will be in Cubase 7.anything. Will there be a paid-for 7.5 update? They're raising their prices, so it would be nice to know how else the roadmap has changed. If this is a pay more for more change, then maybe it's worth it. But if not, well, there are cheaper DAWs out there that have already improved their workflow (even if they have fewer features).

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SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:42 am

TheoM wrote: Logic is currently the highest GROSSING app in the mac app store. If they have a couple of hundred thousand users, which i would guess would be a conservative figure, are you saying 40 million of revenue of a download store with no middle man or packaging costs, even for big apple, is insignificant?

Yes, that is a GROSS figure. A couple years of 10ish devs can run several million, + tools + royalties and licenses + support + distro (it isn't free to host/download that stuff) etc..

40 million doesn't go as far as you think it does in corporate America.

New upgrade prices for Cubase