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ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:19 pm

But they are also investors, meaning they expect a return, so Id assume they also have a good amount of debt on the balance sheets that has to be paid off before they see any profit

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:28 pm

I didn't say they were broke. I said they the company Bitwig isn't "generating any income" yet. Relax a little.

If you want to know (technically) what "income" is, see the tax code.

toothnclaw · Post by **toothnclaw** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:52 pm

Well, I'm one of the main beta testers but I have signed a NDA, so I can't tell you if it's vaporware or not, sorry! Please carry on with your discussion, all this useless speculation is, well, useless.

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:00 pm

toothnclaw wrote:Well, I'm one of the main beta testers but I have signed a NDA, so I can't tell you if it's vaporware or not, sorry! Please carry on with your discussion, all this useless speculation is, well, useless.

And that NDA also tells you , you cant discuss that you are a Beta tester , the Bitwig police will be by shortly .

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:00 pm

toothnclaw wrote:Please carry on with your discussion, all this useless speculation is, well, useless.

If we all stop speculating there'd be not many other real purposes for the net. Well... except for free porn of course.

Now that you've admitted to being a Bitwig Beta Tester (on KVR no less) expect your PM box to really blow up.

ezelkow1 · Post by **ezelkow1** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:01 pm

Ooooh, and now we know they rank their beta testers in to 'main' and 'not-main'. Slowly the secrecy wall crumbles

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:14 pm

You heard it here first, Bitwig is vaporware.

LawrenceF · Post by **LawrenceF** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:20 pm

I wonder how many PM's he'll get from people asking him to sell them a copy of the beta for $75 or something?

Dunbar · Post by **Dunbar** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:22 pm

Bitwig was shelved because of the lack of bugs, it was too perfect. There was no scope for updates; it was a flawed business model.

toothnclaw · Post by **toothnclaw** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:22 pm

Goratrix · Post by **Goratrix** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:28 pm

bungle wrote:"This project is co-Financed by the European Union - ERDF."

Interesting. Fortunately the data is public, so we can take a look at how much money Bitwig gets from us european taxpayers

Aaand, here it is:

http://www.berlin.de/imperia/md/content ... 300610.pdf

Approved on 30.9.2010 for 490 000 euro and 87 000 euro. However, a more current version of the document here:

http://www.berlin.de/imperia/md/content ... s_2012.pdf

Says 600 000 euro and 88 000 euro. Not bad

And why the hell does the column that should have a description of their business in it say "Float"?

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:32 pm

Wow I guess I need to start my own photo shop DAW company anyone want to join me ?

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:36 pm

Again!!!??

wasi · Post by **wasi** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:22 pm

Goratrix wrote:And why the hell does the column that should have a description of their business in it say "Float"?

If you look here:

https://register.dpma.de/DPMAregister/m ... 0315248/DE

you can see that they tried to register 'Float' as a Trademark in June 2011 and it was denied. It's probably what they planned on calling the DAW initially.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:28 pm

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