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I encountered the clicking problem as well today. Resetting only worked after a couple of attempts and closing my DAW. I hope he fixes that bug asap.

Plus, sometimes when loading a 1-layer patch after using a multi-layer sound before, the additional layers of the previous patch are not deleted.

Maybe there is a reason why that thing is not very popular ;) Bugs like that remind me of beta versions...
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Nah, the M1's given me just as many problems. It's a lot of why I keep saying software sucks, because the only VSTs I have (that I use regularly) that haven't given me problems of some kind have been Ravity, the Hyper Canvas, and Edirol Orchestral, and to even install the latter two, I needed to edit my registry.

At least you fixed it, though.

There might be extra steps to that fix, like closing your DAW or rescanning your VST plugins, that I didn't know to add too. I did both but didn't think it mattered.

Everyone I know who's used Purity has run into that bug, though.
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I hope the problem won't repeat itself as I will definitely not go through such a troubleshooting routine on a regular basis.

I bet Nexus is free of such problems, but it is too expensive for me as a hobbyist, and probably too demanding for my computer :P
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Yeah, but in Yeap and Luxonix's defense, they're a small developer, and they probably didn't have a lot of people to test the software. Especially no one overseas.

Yeap's problem has always been that any time someone has reported a bug, they have somehow fixed it themselves, and then they've disappeared before Yeap was able to get their help in actually finding the source of the problem.

The problem hasn't happened to me again yet, and I've been using the hell out of this thing.

It doesn't really worry me because I know how to resolve it now.

Edit: My advice to anyone who's experienced this bug is to email Luxonix, tell them what DAW and OS you're using, and list your system specs. RAM type, audio card, driver, etc.

This clicking problem screams "audio driver problem" to me, in which case, no one's at fault here, they just need help in solving it. And that's why shutting down your DAW solved it after restoring the factory settings.

I'm using my Primary Sound Driver (career suicide go~), and so was the other person I know of who ran into this bug.
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Sorry, but after 7 or more years on the market being a small developer is not an excuse. After all, it is not freeware, people are paying for it. And there is not even a demo version so people could discover bugs before buying. Nor is there a money-back guarantee.

What behavior causes that bug in the first place? Are we not supposed to make changes on the Setup page if Resetting that seems to help?
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No idea. Like I said, it sounds like some kind of issue with Purity and audio drivers.

When Purity was first released, I was talking to Yeap about a couple of bugs I noticed in the software, but he said he wasn't able to reproduce them on his machine.

He tried to contact me a year later to see if the bug was still there and to get my help in troubleshooting it, but I was long gone by then.

If it's an issue with the Primary Sound Driver, then that would explain why he couldn't reproduce the bugs. He probably didn't think to use it.

Edit: Oh, I get what you're saying now.

Setup Load: Defaults resets the wave data and all settings.

You can make changes to that setup page all you want - that's not the issue.

So far the issue is likely the Primary Sound Driver.

There are only two bugs that I've encountered:

One where if you place the drum kit on the first MIDI channel and begin a song, the very first notes get muted/experience some kind of envelope glitch.

The other is this clicking thing.

Back when I used my Emu 0404, when Purity was first released, I tested the demo extensively and didn't experience any clicking.

My friend and I both use the Primary Sound Driver because ASIO4ALL is too finicky. If you're also using the Primary Sound Driver, then it is almost definitely an issue with how Purity interacts with it.

So if that's the problem and you need a quick solution, ASIO4ALL might work better.

I'm stuck using the Primary Sound Driver because my system is jury-rigged. :hihi:
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OKAY!

Forget everything I just said!

A setting on that setup page does seem to trigger this clicking bug.

I'm doing some bug finding on my end. Stay tuned.

And to fix it, you do need to restore the factory settings and then restart your DAW!

So let's see...
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Okay, I've been able to recreate this bug.

Here is the problem:

Somewhere along the line, all three of us have clicked this button:

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If you click that button, shut down your DAW, and reopen it, Purity will start clicking.

To resolve this, if you restore the factory settings and restart your DAW, the clicking will be gone.

To preserve your user sounds, you should just be able to copy the 4 *.usr files in your Program Files/LUXONIX/Purity folder before restoring the factory settings.

To avoid this, just don't click that button.

I'm not sure why that button is there.

I will report this to Sky Cha right away.
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Yes, I remember I had changed the envelop curve from linear to some other setting, maybe that was not a good idea :)

Is the Full RAM Share option inaccessible on your computer as well? I can't turn that off. I remember that I had used 3 instances yesterday.

Interestingly, it worked fine despite the changes I made yesterday, right till I turned my computer off. Maybe there is an problem when saving to the configuration file as that is loaded anew the next time Purity starts.
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fluffy_little_something wrote:Yes, I remember I had changed the envelop curve from linear to some other setting, maybe that was not a good idea :)

Is the Full RAM Share option inaccessible on your computer as well? I can't turn that off. I remember that I had used 3 instances yesterday.

Interestingly, it worked fine despite the changes I made yesterday, right till I turned my computer off. Maybe there is an problem when saving to the configuration file as that is loaded anew the next time Purity starts.
Nah, it'll work fine until you shut down your DAW.

It's when you reopen it that it will click again.

This happened to me too - I was messing around with that page, discovered the Full RAM Share setting didn't work (it's on by default), and when I went to bed and woke up, was getting clicking.

I've been able to recreate this same thing over and over by just clicking that button.

So that's the button that does it.

And it behaves weirdly, so it fits.

It seems like Purity defaults to Full RAM Share and does not have the option to turn that off anymore.

And it looks like they made a last minute fix, but screwed up the code and so touching that button triggers this problem.

Full RAM Share just means that Purity dumps all of its wave data into your RAM once, and all instances of Purity use that same wave data.

Purity's ROM is only 64mb, so it's no big deal to leave it on.
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Funny you also mention that RAM switch :) Yes, I remember I clicked it yesterday, and today as well :P

The presets one saves in the user banks are not affected by that bug and resetting. They are still there without my copying anything :)

So, let's avoid that RAM button :D
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Renaming a patch only seems to work from the Presets page. It's OK, but it took me some time to figure that out as the manual is not very good, it leaves lots of questions unanswered.

For instance, I still have to figure out how the sequencer works...

Unfortunately the preset names do not show up in my DAW, but that problem exists with many plugins.

But the sound is really pleasant and nice, I can load two dozen instances full of effects and stuff without my computer getting angry :D Yet, the sound is better than with virtually all of my other synths, of which I can only use about up to a dozen at a time :)
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Yeah, there is definitely a language barrier.

That's why I'm trying my best. :hihi:

But at least we know how to avoid these bugs now, and these bugs are in no way gamebreaking.

I can at least do a write-up on how to use the sequencer.

It's a lot easier than it looks.

I'll do that today, since I have nothing else to do and I'm sick, and I need to study this instrument better anyway.
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Thanks, but don't bother, I guess I have figured it out :) It doesn't seem to be as intuitive as the rest, though, it is a bit clumsy. Well, I have my DAW for that :) No loss...
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God, what a slow download. I just bought it and it's ticking away at 22kbs. My adsl is running about 5mbs so it aint me.
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