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andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:09 pm

Ch00rD wrote:
andy-cytomic wrote:[...] I recommend everyone update to this version.

The Drop v0.9.18 (10 Sep 2013) www.cytomic.com/drop
[...]
Thanks for the update, Andy. Gentle reminder: you should update the links on your homepage as well. It's easy enough for us to copy/paste and increment a digit too, of course, but still...

Thanks for the reminder to update the Trial version download links! If you are an existing customer please head to your account's download section to grap the full version.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:10 pm

ducelare wrote:..
To compare different filters even faster it would be great if we could click on the name of the circuit to open a popup menu. You've mentioned this before - is it still planned? ...

Done!

ducelare · Post by **ducelare** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:33 pm

andy-cytomic wrote:
ducelare wrote:..
To compare different filters even faster it would be great if we could click on the name of the circuit to open a popup menu. You've mentioned this before - is it still planned? ...
Done!

thanks!!!

kingtubby · Post by **kingtubby** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:25 am

The Drop 0.9.18 - the plugin bypass button isn't working here. It's the 32bit windows version. The same applies to The Glue 1.2.9 and both were working with the previous versions.

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:13 am

kingtubby wrote:The Drop 0.9.18 - the plugin bypass button isn't working here. It's the 32bit windows version. The same applies to The Glue 1.2.9 and both were working with the previous versions.

Yes, this is a confirmed bug, I already spotting this and have fixed it. Another little thing I spotted is that (and this has probably been happening for a while) automation of the trigger buttons doesn't work as expected since they send back a message themselves saying they have been clicked which can cause automation to be bypassed since it looks like the user is moving the control themselves. This is also fixed and I will release it soon.

PS: the power button in both still work via automation, and this is also equivalent to using the hosts bypass feature so you can also use that instead.

KnickersDown · Post by **KnickersDown** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:08 pm

Hello Andy,

I am enjoying the new filter. Excellent work Sir.

May I make a suggestion for your next filter?

One synth that always stands out as sounding instantly recognisable is the Prophet 5. I believe early models came with SSM2044 filters (which are rumoured to sound better but that's how it always goes) and later Curtis. The smaller pro-one also has that filter sound but these were the curtis filters. Those two synths were on so many late 70s early 80s records. More so than any other synth I would think. All those early Madonna tracks for instance. Those filters sound so unique. In my humble opinion, I think that a model of either of those filters would go so much further than yet another 24db moog clone. The SSM2044 was also in the polysix and mono/poly. Two synths I love.

Phase47 · Post by **Phase47** » Thu Sep 19, 2013 11:37 pm

KnickersDown wrote:Hello Andy,

I am enjoying the new filter. Excellent work Sir.

May I make a suggestion for your next filter?

One synth that always stands out as sounding instantly recognisable is the Prophet 5. I believe early models came with SSM2044 filters (which are rumoured to sound better but that's how it always goes) and later Curtis. The smaller pro-one also has that filter sound but these were the curtis filters. Those two synths were on so many late 70s early 80s records. More so than any other synth I would think. All those early Madonna tracks for instance. Those filters sound so unique. In my humble opinion, I think that a model of either of those filters would go so much further than yet another 24db moog clone. The SSM2044 was also in the polysix and mono/poly. Two synths I love.

+1 for the Curtis filter, which I believe was also used in the (underrated) Ensoniq ESQ-1.

xiphiuz · Post by **xiphiuz** » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:50 am

Phase47 wrote:
KnickersDown wrote:Hello Andy,

I am enjoying the new filter. Excellent work Sir.

May I make a suggestion for your next filter?

One synth that always stands out as sounding instantly recognisable is the Prophet 5. I believe early models came with SSM2044 filters (which are rumoured to sound better but that's how it always goes) and later Curtis. The smaller pro-one also has that filter sound but these were the curtis filters. Those two synths were on so many late 70s early 80s records. More so than any other synth I would think. All those early Madonna tracks for instance. Those filters sound so unique. In my humble opinion, I think that a model of either of those filters would go so much further than yet another 24db moog clone. The SSM2044 was also in the polysix and mono/poly. Two synths I love.
+1 for the Curtis filter, which I believe was also used in the (underrated) Ensoniq ESQ-1.

Indeed +1. But the ESQ-1 has a different Curtis filter: CEM3379 VC Signal Processor Filter/Mix/VCA( More stuff on one chip). More info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEM_and_SS ... nthesizers

About the Prophet 5:
PROPHET 5: the first Prophet 5 series used the SSM filter, later they were changed to CEM
Prophet 5 Rev 1 & 2: 11x SSM2030 VCO, 5x SSM2040 VCF, 10x SSM2050 EG, 21x SSM2020 VCA
Prophet 5 Rev 3: 11x CEM3340 VCO, 10x CEM3310 EG, 5x CEM3320 VCF

Most people I know that actually have a Prophet-5, love the rev2. After they had the 1 and/or 3.

But once again, that would be awesome/+1!

andy-cytomic · Post by **andy-cytomic** » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:30 am

KnickersDown wrote:Hello Andy,

I am enjoying the new filter. Excellent work Sir.

May I make a suggestion for your next filter?

One synth that always stands out as sounding instantly recognisable is the Prophet 5. I believe early models came with SSM2044 filters (which are rumoured to sound better but that's how it always goes) and later Curtis. The smaller pro-one also has that filter sound but these were the curtis filters. Those two synths were on so many late 70s early 80s records. More so than any other synth I would think. All those early Madonna tracks for instance. Those filters sound so unique. In my humble opinion, I think that a model of either of those filters would go so much further than yet another 24db moog clone. The SSM2044 was also in the polysix and mono/poly. Two synths I love.

There are many chips that deserve detailed attention and the SSM2044 is one of them, as well as the SSM2040 and CEM3320, but also using biased diodes like the Steiner Parker differential Sallen Key. For The Drop I chose the discrete transistor based gain cells of the Ladder and MS20 mk1 as well as the CA3080/LM13600/LM13700 (all have the same OTA core) and the IR3109. In the future I may have time to do in depth models of other voltage controlled gain cells and other filter topologies, but these will be new products or paid for add-ons.

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:01 am

Love the drop. Major MAJORILY great filter. I've been playing with this and it's so acoustically pleasing. Not any extreme examples just simlpe dreamy sweeps. Did notice on LP CascadeSH I was getting some very tiny resonance distortion on the freq hitting max (20k). May have been the comp or recording used, but dropped it off a little and all was good. Maybe something I'm not technically understanding. There's some sweet spots on the cascade around the 7k mark I noticed

Anyway can I share (not a master piece, just a noodle). The Drop is on the hi-hats and the obvious trancey lead

all fun.

Peace

https://soundcloud.com/mfxsound/harrys- ... nic-groove

KnickersDown · Post by **KnickersDown** » Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:25 am

andy-cytomic wrote:these will be new products or paid for add-ons.

Put my name down for that! I'll happily buy a new product that features those filters if you get round to doing it.

nrosko · Post by **nrosko** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:36 pm

Is there a way to get the filter to open fully using the envelopes? The range seems restricted when modulating with envelopes.

sqigls · Post by **sqigls** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:25 pm

use the sensitivity?

camsr · Post by **camsr** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:42 am

I found turning off the lfo, envelopes, midi, and fm, reduces the cpu usage a bit, enough to stop some crackling here. It's kinda handy to be able to turn them off, because they weren't being used!

nrosko · Post by **nrosko** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:45 pm

sqigls wrote:use the sensitivity?

That still does not allow you to modulate the full range.

I'm sure its supposed to be this way but I'm interested in the reason.

Also is there a way to save oversampling settings? Saving preset as default does not save the setting & means i have to select higher oversampling every time i open the plugin.

Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter