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Any plans for a DeEsser and Gate? :)
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- KVRAF
- 1769 posts since 30 Jul, 2007
Just curious if this is your line up... seems like they are basic tools that could help a ton. I love your Compressor and EQ.
Thanks
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122 - KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
I'm afraid not (I guess you are speaking about the free plugins). Though there is a gate in MDynamics and it is able to work as deesser as well (but there is no active preset, good point).
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 15 Oct, 2008 from Germany
Hi Vojtech,
I have dig this thread up I, too, think that a more sophisticated gate is severely missing from your line-up. The gate in MDynamics is very basic and missing a couple of things:
- range: expressed relatively to the threshold, so a range of 6dB would reduce the signal by at most 6dB when the gate is closed). A bit like bottom, but relative to the threshold; also bottom only goes up to -80dB
- hysteresis: a value in dB that defines the level below the threshold at which the gate closes. 0dB hysteresis means the gate opens at threshold and closes at threshold. -6dB hysteresis means the gate opens at threshold but closes at threshold-6dB.
- MIDI out when gate opens/closes to use it as a trigger plugin
Maybe you'll change your mind - otherwise I'll have to buy FabFilter Pro-G
Such a plugin doesn't have to be free, of course. I think it would fit into the mixing/total bundle perfectly.
Regards,
Andre
P.S.: now that I'm thinking of Pro-G - I think its side chain routing is brilliant. You can control e.g. how much the side chain listens to mid or side (or left/right) respectively and then control how much the gate/expander affects the mid/side of the audio. So you can e.g. expand the side signal using the mid signal as side chain. Nifty
I have dig this thread up
I, too, think that a more sophisticated gate is severely missing from your line-up. The gate in MDynamics is very basic and missing a couple of things:- range: expressed relatively to the threshold, so a range of 6dB would reduce the signal by at most 6dB when the gate is closed). A bit like bottom, but relative to the threshold; also bottom only goes up to -80dB
- hysteresis: a value in dB that defines the level below the threshold at which the gate closes. 0dB hysteresis means the gate opens at threshold and closes at threshold. -6dB hysteresis means the gate opens at threshold but closes at threshold-6dB.
- MIDI out when gate opens/closes to use it as a trigger plugin
Maybe you'll change your mind - otherwise I'll have to buy FabFilter Pro-G
Such a plugin doesn't have to be free, of course. I think it would fit into the mixing/total bundle perfectly.
Regards,
Andre
P.S.: now that I'm thinking of Pro-G - I think its side chain routing is brilliant. You can control e.g. how much the side chain listens to mid or side (or left/right) respectively and then control how much the gate/expander affects the mid/side of the audio. So you can e.g. expand the side signal using the mid signal as side chain. Nifty
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Hey folks,
well, not that it wouldn't be interested, but actually the "idea basket" is kind of full, with way more interesting things to be honest, but I'll think about it. There are a few things worth considering... But I really don't want to clone anything, we must at least add some cool features...
well, not that it wouldn't be interested, but actually the "idea basket" is kind of full
, with way more interesting things to be honest, but I'll think about it. There are a few things worth considering... But I really don't want to clone anything, we must at least add some cool features...-
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
Now I am curious!MeldaProduction wrote:actually the "idea basket" is kind of full
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- KVRAF
- 1924 posts since 15 Oct, 2008 from Germany
Thanks for your reply. I'm very sure you wouldn't just release a clone without any extra "Melda"-esque twists and tweaksMeldaProduction wrote:Hey folks,
well, not that it wouldn't be interested, but actually the "idea basket" is kind of full
As always, I'm looking forward to the things to come.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Sep, 2014
I know this is a pretty old thread but I think the request is still valid.
Gates are one of the effects I reach for all the time and I find the MDynamics one to be a bit limited. I know I could make one using modulators in pretty much any Melda plug but I'm a bit lazy and a bit thick and if I glance at my FX chain and it doesn't say MGateMB I get confused!
Gates are one of the effects I reach for all the time and I find the MDynamics one to be a bit limited. I know I could make one using modulators in pretty much any Melda plug but I'm a bit lazy and a bit thick and if I glance at my FX chain and it doesn't say MGateMB I get confused!
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- KVRist
- 460 posts since 25 Jan, 2016
Isn't MRhythmizerMB the greatest Gate on steroids? Time, Volume AND Filter gates all in one! And customizable envelopes for each one before noting that it is MB AND has all of the standard Melda features. How could you want more than that?
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Sep, 2014
No, that's a sequencer gate. I'm talking about a dedicated noise gate. I hate to say it, but like Fab Filter ProG.
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Sep, 2014
I don't find the gate in MDynamics that useful, it's fine for background noise but if I want a fixed attenuation, not a ratio, it's no good. Say I want to duck my signal from a sidechain by 3dB, in MDynamics I have to draw it in (tilted z shape) then, to adjust the threshold, I have to draw it in again. Unless I'm missing something, which is quite often the case with Melda plugs.
Also, if I'm messing about in MXXX it would be handy to just be able to grab the MGate module and throw it in my chain to do a simple task without too much tweaking. Then, a month later when I revisit the patch, I'll see the module title and know why it's there.
As I said before, I appreciate that there are ways of doing gates with modulators. I just think if Melda are adding MAutoStereoFix and MFreeformPhase to the family maybe the humble gate might be a useful addition.
Also, if I'm messing about in MXXX it would be handy to just be able to grab the MGate module and throw it in my chain to do a simple task without too much tweaking. Then, a month later when I revisit the patch, I'll see the module title and know why it's there.
As I said before, I appreciate that there are ways of doing gates with modulators. I just think if Melda are adding MAutoStereoFix and MFreeformPhase to the family maybe the humble gate might be a useful addition.
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- KVRAF
- 2702 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
A few things seem confused here.
1. The gate on MDynamics doesn't have a ratio control (as you said), maybe are you looking at processor 1?
2. You don't have to draw the gate setting in, you can also use the normal parameter knobs.
3. Are you trying to reduce the quite parts of your signal by 3db? If so then actually you need an expander not a gate.
They are sort of the same, but really a gate should completely turn the audio off or on.
4. You cant have a fixed attenuation, how can the dynamics detector know what is going to happen to the audio?
5. Ducking your signal from a sidechain sounds like sidechain compression? or do you mean expansion?
6. MDynamics has an easy screen with a dedicated gate, is this not useful enough?
1. The gate on MDynamics doesn't have a ratio control (as you said), maybe are you looking at processor 1?
2. You don't have to draw the gate setting in, you can also use the normal parameter knobs.
3. Are you trying to reduce the quite parts of your signal by 3db? If so then actually you need an expander not a gate.
They are sort of the same, but really a gate should completely turn the audio off or on.
4. You cant have a fixed attenuation, how can the dynamics detector know what is going to happen to the audio?
5. Ducking your signal from a sidechain sounds like sidechain compression? or do you mean expansion?
6. MDynamics has an easy screen with a dedicated gate, is this not useful enough?
Jason @ Melda Production
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- KVRist
- 69 posts since 2 Sep, 2014
Hi jmg8,
I consider side chain compression and ducking separate things. This is ducking:
https://ibb.co/cqEvpQ
The attenuation is fixed, it's not scaled by threshold overshoot. I use this on adverts when I want the voiceover to duck the music.
I also like doing this kind of thing:
https://ibb.co/eO1apQ
It's like a downward expander but not quite.
I consider side chain compression and ducking separate things. This is ducking:
https://ibb.co/cqEvpQ
The attenuation is fixed, it's not scaled by threshold overshoot. I use this on adverts when I want the voiceover to duck the music.
I also like doing this kind of thing:
https://ibb.co/eO1apQ
It's like a downward expander but not quite.
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- KVRAF
- 2702 posts since 9 Jul, 2015 from UK
I though you were asking for a gate? Can you see how this is confusing, as you keep changing topic. Also its best to be specific and structured as it can be difficult for people to understand you when talking about complex topics like this. That is why I numbered my questions. Can you reply again but with numbered answers to the questions please.
Jason @ Melda Production