KVR Audio

mellotronaut · Post by **mellotronaut** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:58 pm

picture nº 3 is great (and nº 6 of course)

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:03 pm

Just seen that your albums are on Spotify!

I will listen to them as soon as I have enough time...

BTW, how much do you get when I listen to them, is Spotify a good way for distributing music?

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:12 pm

BONES wrote:We've also added something that quite a few have asked for over the years.

Some decent music?

zircon · Post by **zircon** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:03 am

Whoa, welcome back Bones. You're an OG KVR member if I've ever seen one.

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Sun Oct 06, 2013 1:52 pm

BONES wrote:Red's not really part of our palette. We've discovered that another EBM band, Modulate, used the atomic bomb image a few years ago so I think it's off the list now. The "bridge" image is actually taken inside an old factory that's been converted into an exhibition space. I think it was the gantry for a crane or something.
xoxos wrote:sometime in the next decade i predict that kvr will gradually accept that individual values are not globally applicable and eventually stop posting every time someone does something different from the way they think is best. spread out/compact, light/dark, rotary/vertical.. people, we hear ya, do you hear us..
I actually find it quite interesting because it's feedback I get fairly regularly. Someone looks at the overall size of the UI and decides that absolutely everything is too small, when the reality is that the individual elements are a good size, to make them as usable as possible, they are just jammed in together. I think it's also got a lot to do with your host. ORION is about the only host I've seen where you have any hope of keeping everything visible at one time. In every other host you accept that things like Instrument/effect UIs will be hidden most of the time, so there is no real reason for them to be space-efficient. OTOH, the smaller the UI, the more of them I can see in one go in ORION, without blocking my view of the mixer or playlist.

Yeah. I thought that might be the case with the red. as for the bridge thing...gantry cranes are something else...when I was working at Eureka foundries that type of crane was used as well...

As far as your UI are concerned I like 'em just the way they are...compact so you can stack them up...good stuff!

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:01 am

Tricky-Loops wrote:Just seen that your albums are on Spotify!
I will listen to them as soon as I have enough time...
BTW, how much do you get when I listen to them, is Spotify a good way for distributing music?

Almost nothing. You need to get something like 50,000 plays to earn $1. Despite that, Spotify still lose money. It's unsustainable for everyone. Even digital makes us nothing, we only get between 10c and 15c per download. We made about $10 from digital sales in the last 6 months and more than $100 in CDs. CDs are still the best way to make money, if that's what you want to do. And if you do it yourself, you get to keep a lot more of it, either digital or on CD. The label takes more from digital sales but even so, around two-thirds of it seems to go to the store (iTunes, amazon, 7digital, etc.).

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:15 am

BONES wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:Just seen that your albums are on Spotify!
I will listen to them as soon as I have enough time...
BTW, how much do you get when I listen to them, is Spotify a good way for distributing music?
Almost nothing. You need to get something like 50,000 plays to earn $1. Despite that, Spotify still lose money. It's unsustainable for everyone. Even digital makes us nothing, we only get between 10c and 15c per download. We made about $10 from digital sales in the last 6 months and more than $100 in CDs. CDs are still the best way to make money, if that's what you want to do. And if you do it yourself, you get to keep a lot more of it, either digital or on CD. The label takes more from digital sales but even so, around two-thirds of it seems to go to the store (iTunes, amazon, 7digital, etc.).

And I must admit I had a good feeling while paying my 5 euro for the monthly Spotify subscription that I'd support some independent sony-bmg-universal-warner-FREE artists...

However, I couldn't live without Spotify because there are some not so well known artists even of the EBM/Industrial/Dark Ambiente/however-you-call-it scene, and I don't have enough money to buy CDs, unfortunately...

But on the other hand, at Spotify they don't even have the CD's of Rammstein which is one of my favorite bands...

BTW, do you make gigs (i. e. live concerts)?

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:14 am

I love Spotify, but its difficult to see how paying $1 for 50,000 plays could possibly be considered legal. I guess the real lesson here is that if you discover a new artist on Spotify and really like their music, go buy a copy.

H.86 · Post by **H.86** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:48 pm

BONES wrote:Has no-one tried to work out what the "nice surprise" is yet?

Ultrakiller in now free (as opposed to albumware)?

and #3 gets my vote.

foosnark · Post by **foosnark** » Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:45 pm

Man. BONES is back, someone immediately brought up religion, someone has suggested bigger GUIs, and there's been a mention of ORION.

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:41 pm

so am i the only dude who sees a big angry face on the bridge, like some industrial demigod, or do y'all just see a cool ass bridge thingy?

Nielzie · Post by **Nielzie** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:48 pm

foosnark wrote:Man. BONES is back, someone immediately brought up religion, someone has suggested bigger GUIs, and there's been a mention of ORION.

Good ol' times

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:55 pm

xoxos wrote:so am i the only dude who sees a big angry face on the bridge, like some industrial demigod, or do y'all just see a cool ass bridge thingy?

Elaborating this angry face with a big infernal mouth placed in the space where the person is standing would be a great cover, much better than the others!

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:16 am

H.86 wrote:Ultrakiller in now free (as opposed to albumware)?

Give the man a cigar!

Tricky-Loops wrote:BTW, do you make gigs (i. e. live concerts)?

It is why we exist. Everything we do is to help us get live shows. It doesn't work too well, we haven't played since last December, but it's the only part of our music that I actually enjoy.

Tricky-Loops · Post by **Tricky-Loops** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:21 pm

BONES wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:BTW, do you make gigs (i. e. live concerts)?
It is why we exist. Everything we do is to help us get live shows. It doesn't work too well, we haven't played since last December, but it's the only part of our music that I actually enjoy.

C'mmon, summer is there, time for some gothic hardstyle beach parties!

Even the temperatures in Sydney are jumpin' around like crazy!

NOVAkILL Website Re-Vamp With a Nice Surprise