New upgrade prices for Cubase

[Guillermo Navarrete]

Hello ghettosynth,

Glad I haven't registered my v7 Artist copy.. and won't.. until 7.5 is released and I'm in the window to get it for 'free.' Even if that takes several months.. the rent is too high!!

Just to be clear here, you mean such that it shows up on your MySteinberg account? Right now only my v5.5 and my cubase LE licenses show up. I can't remember with the dongle stuff, do you have to manually register your serial with Steniberg, and if so, is that what they consider to be the date that matters in terms of upgrades?

There is a difference between activating and registering.
You can register the serial number of your elicenser at MySteinberg, but at the same time your product might not be activated yet.

To activate the software you need to open the eLicenser Control Center and type in your activation code, the eLicenser Control Center will download the license into your USB-eLicenser.
That will permanently activate your software.
What matters is the date of activation not the date that you register at MySteinberg.

Then, if so, is support (and reduced upgrade pricing) the only reason that people register?

Yes and no:
For the time being you do not need to register your software to purchase the upgrades or any other product at the online shop.
It is require that you have a register product for support, and also in case you lose or brake your eLicenser, it can be replaced. It is more like an insurance.

Best regards,
GN

[Alfalfa]

My upgrade to 7 (from 6.5) arrived and now I'm wondering how long I should wait to register it. Perhaps until October 16th?

The U.S. upgrade price changes are pretty steep, so I'm glad I did it: http://www.steinberg.net/en/newsandeven ... -2519.html

Steinberg would like to inform you about several pricing adjustments that will take place from October 15, 2013.

The new prices for Cubase 7 updates/upgrades are from

Cubase 6.5: USD 249.99*
Cubase 6: USD 299.99*
Cubase 4/5: USD 349.99*
Cubase Artist 7: USD 299.99*
Cubase Artist 6.5: USD 349.99*
Cubase Artist 6, Cubase Studio 4/5: USD 399*


The new prices for Cubase Artist 7 updates/upgrades are from:

Cubase Artist 6.5: USD 179.99*
Cubase Artist 6: USD 199.99*
Cubase Elements 6/7, Cubase Essential 4/5: USD 249.99*
Cubase LE/AI 4/5/6/7, Cubase SE 3, Studio Case 2, Sequel 2/3: USD 299.99

[Compyfox]

300 quids from one Major version to another major version is f*cking steep.

That's 100EUR more than I paid. And even with street prices (20quids off), it's still intolerable!



People should finally wake up and react with their wallets!
Every 1,5 year 250-300 EUR for a buggy as hell system?!


Where can I sign up as Beta tester, Steinberg? Because I can't afford you anymore. But I've been "beta testing" for you since 1995!




Oh and, if you're aiming at a Grace Period.... I don't think that this will get you C7.5 or C8 for free. No, you have to pay extra either way.

[cubic13]

A tough debate...

I just see it like this : I think that, even if the price is increasing of 50 euros, it's not that expensive. What is 50 euros ? a good meal in a decent restaurant, this, every 2 years... And, saying this, I precise that I'm far from rich.

I'm much more concerned about how Cubase is evolving with many UI features that were still in C5.1, removed without warning first in C6.0 then C7.0, and the truely buggy C7 release. There have been countless threads here and there about all the bugs and quirks of the MixConsole, this with the useless RCE, ASIO guard, the unresponsiveness of the whole thing, and so on...

I don't bother paying 50 € more if they release, in exchange, truely usable upgrades from the start with ALL features of the previous versions still there. At this point, I'm wondering what they will remove in C8 : VST 2.x support ? Edit in place ? Generic remote devices ? Input transformer ? This is worrying me much more than a 50 euros price increase.

At a point, I could look somewhere else, but which host will give me the following...
- The musical/linear timebase switch, perfect for adjusting a project tempo to a freely played improvisation ?
- The Input transformer that allows you to transform/filter in real time MIDI incoming data ?
- The external instruments integration as VSTis ?
- The quite complete Score editor ?
- The easy configuration and use of multi-outs VSTis ?
- The Generic remote devices allowing me to configure Cubase as I want for my 2 remote controllers ?
- The free routing ?
- The MIDI inserts ?
- The fully featured sample editor ?
- The plug-ins information window ?
- The overall ease of use and clear informations display (well, at least, until C6.5...) ?

I'm hooked to Cubase because of these, this with what is remaining of the project window UI, simply because I need them all. I tried several other hosts (Reaper, Podium, Samplitude, Sonar, DP8 Windows, Studio One...) and none of them gives me all this in the same package, this with a true ease of use.

So, 50 € more or less, well, it's a secondary debate, IMO. I'm much more concerned and anxious about which features Steiny will remove in C8...

[Compyfox]

Not touching that debate about "what's 50 quids more".


Have it, or don't have it.
I don't.


And Steinberg pissed off A LOT of users with broken Cubendo 7, and then they peed on the shows of the users with another price raise.

[SODDI]

My bet is that Steinberg will be fully subsumed by the Yamaha core entity just in time for C8 and the lack of care in programming C7 reflects workplace dissatisfaction.

And 50 Euros or 80 dollars IS a big deal to a lot of the folks who use these programs. It is to me. It's that Valhalla Shimmer (which I would probably use far too much, so it's good that I haven't budgeted for it.)

And it's not just the money. It's throwing good money after a deeply flawed product.

[cubic13]

How to explain this (my english is limited...) ?

I understand that spending 50 more quids for a 'flawed' product is everything but welcomed.

But, professional or not, we are all more or less anxiously waiting for what future updates/upgrades will bring. And, considering the part of my life music is taking, I do state that if Steiny give us a usable C8 upgrade with true fixes concerning the project window UI regressions, the MixConsole, the RCE and others already stated, I will purchase it at a 250 € price instead of 200. What more to say ?

[Compyfox]

What's to say is, that they were so arrogant and sucked out 200 EUR out of my bank, with promises they've never kept. I wasted weeks for hunting down a certain bug, and trying to get that to Steinberg. Only to wait another 3 months with a bugfix, where this is not adressed.


A lot of users still have issues and rolled back to Cubase 6.x, and this is a red flag in my opinion that something went terribly wrong.


So instead of pulling their heads out of their behinds, they rather raises prices, drop support for certain tools and SDKs, and ask for "tablet versions" of yet another buggy software (Wavelab).


Every time I want to have support, I need to update to the latest versions available. Else I'm sh*t out of luck. I had several tickets open for WL7, and a couple of days later, WL8 was released. My issues with WL7 were never resolved, and they continue on in WL8.

C7 on the other hand is so buggy, that I had to OC my rig, roll back to a 2 year old RME driver and otherwise constantly work with 1024samples (about 20ms latency).


Oh, and don't let me get started on the zero to none existing manual for the new CHord Track mode.



Steinberg constantly lies into our face. Most prominently with "we listen to our customers" and "we try to get every bug fixed". Apparently, they give a sh*t and rather say "ah you know... it works either way, let's charge 50 quids for an update!".


Anyone remembers the faux pas with Cubase SX1 and SX2, where the hardware users got the finger (literally) and only with SX3 the hardware functions were back again?

At least an SX1 to SX3 upgrade didn't cost 600 EUR. But if it goes on that way, C7 to C9 WILL cost as much.



I'm sick of being a "beta tester that has to pay for participating".

[SODDI]

I do state that if Steiny give us a usable C8 upgrade with true fixes concerning the project window UI regressions, the MixConsole, the RCE and others already stated, I will purchase it at a 250 € price instead of 200. What more to say ?

What's more to say?

Those are all Cubase 7.0x bugfixes. Not an upgrade.

[Alfalfa]

Oh and, if you're aiming at a Grace Period.... I don't think that this will get you C7.5 or C8 for free. No, you have to pay extra either way.

That's what I'm aiming at. Maybe this was a bad idea.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[VitaminD]

Oh and, if you're aiming at a Grace Period.... I don't think that this will get you C7.5 or C8 for free. No, you have to pay extra either way.

That's what I'm aiming at. Maybe this was a bad idea.

Yes, I'm hoping for one too. 130 to upgrade from Cubase Artist 6.5 to 7 is incredible. A half version costs 130! Makes me suspect 7 to 7.5 will be the same. That is half the cost of the software outright. If their goal is to keep users upgrading through every point revision, they need to lower the cost of the upgrades. Otherwise, they are telling their user base to upgrade much less often.


In any case, my boxed copy of Cubase Artist 7 is sitting, unopened, in the shipping box in which it came... waiting for at least November if not some time later.. to open it.. hoping to secure an x.5 upgrade (and save myself 130 bucks).

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[VitaminD]

Actually, I got my prices mixed.. its 130 to go from 6->7 and 100 to go from 6.5->7



so really you save money by skipping the half versions if you can do without them.. which is backwards to me.. one would think (at least I would) that you'd want people to continue to upgrade constantly.. and thus reward those who stay up to date.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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