KVR Audio

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:57 pm

edit. nevermind

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:59 pm

ThomasHelzle wrote:Can we please have the cats back?

Cheers,

Tom

P.S. the other thread is also for "catfights"

its ok, ive finally used my first mute.

pc999 · Post by **pc999** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:03 pm

justin3am wrote: ...(LOTS OF GOOD INFO)...

I like that, all of that

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pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:05 pm

justin3am wrote: There is a button in the clip editor that allows you to switch between editing a single clip (as Live does it) or editing all of the Audio or MIDI on a track at once. You can layer multiple tracks of the same kind in the clip editor, so you can compare the timing of edits with other tracks/clips. I don't think you can layer MIDI tracks with Audio tracks. It would be cool if you could but you can quickly switch between active audio and MIDI layers with a button in the editor. You can super-impose an audio track to the background of a MIDI clip but I find myself working the other way a lot (moving audio events to match the position of MIDI notes) and I don't think you can edit the audio in the background.

The inspector (similar to the middle box in Live's Clip Editor) can work like an event editor (which I love). You can edit the properties of individual notes and audio events (these are the edits which can be contained within clips). I really like working this way so it's a big plus for me.

Thanks much for the post... I always appreciate your viewpoint on features and usability.

From the photos with the audio underlay, it had looked like you could edit audio and midi tracks together! Too bad, but hey, being able to edit multiple clips of the same type at once is already a big improvement over Live!

I also adjust audio to midi more than the other way round...

Tom answered this one, but IIRC he wasn't so sure, so does Bitwig combine midi channels internally like Live does?

Cheers...

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 8:14 pm

pdxindy wrote:
justin3am wrote: There is a button in the clip editor that allows you to switch between editing a single clip (as Live does it) or editing all of the Audio or MIDI on a track at once. You can layer multiple tracks of the same kind in the clip editor, so you can compare the timing of edits with other tracks/clips. I don't think you can layer MIDI tracks with Audio tracks. It would be cool if you could but you can quickly switch between active audio and MIDI layers with a button in the editor. You can super-impose an audio track to the background of a MIDI clip but I find myself working the other way a lot (moving audio events to match the position of MIDI notes) and I don't think you can edit the audio in the background.

The inspector (similar to the middle box in Live's Clip Editor) can work like an event editor (which I love). You can edit the properties of individual notes and audio events (these are the edits which can be contained within clips). I really like working this way so it's a big plus for me.

Thanks much for the post... I always appreciate your viewpoint on features and usability.

From the photos with the audio underlay, it had looked like you could edit audio and midi tracks together! Too bad, but hey, being able to edit multiple clips of the same type at once is already a big improvement over Live!

I also adjust audio to midi more than the other way round...

Tom answered this one, but IIRC he wasn't so sure, so does Bitwig combine midi channels internally like Live does?

Cheers...

I think someone mentioned it but I'm not so sure now.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:06 pm

pdxindy wrote:Tom answered this one, but IIRC he wasn't so sure, so does Bitwig combine midi channels internally like Live does?

Cheers...

Yes, It looks like it does (unless I'm missing a setting). However, I don't want to make definitive statements about features because I don't know if this is the final implementation.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:12 pm

justin3am wrote:
ThomasHelzle wrote:
The Mantra wrote:
BMoore wrote: Well.
Performance is key, and it's been asked about several times.
I know we're not entitled to answers, and any participation from beta testers are appreciated, but as far as I can see, there are very few significant questions answered.
I'm not in Beta but i have participated in beta for other software. It seems common for beta software to run extra code in the background which would affect performance. If that's the case for BWS then I doubt the beta testers could give any meaningful info on performance.
Exactly.
Indeed, even if that weren't the case, it's not really my role as a beta tester to do performance testing.
Internal QA has the ability to compare performance of their application on many different computers, which have been configured exactly the same way (so there are few unknown factors). Most end-users/beta testers do not have that capability. I know I couldn't do that sort of thing from home. Test methodology is very important when it comes to QA and particularly unit testing, performance testing, compatibility testing, etc. That is why these things are done by a team who are following a spec and a test plan. They run tests concurrently, to make sure that results match up and that they don't get anomalous behavior under certain circumstances.

I'm not saying that any person is incapable of doing this kind of testing. I'm just saying, when I'm acting as a beta tester, I take off my QA hat and put on my end-user hat. I hope that makes sense.

It's just a simple question, with an equally simple way to answer.

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:14 pm

No, as they said, there is reason to believe that the performance in the beta will not be the same as the final release.

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:21 pm

Ogopogo wrote:No, as they said, there is reason to believe that the performance in the beta will not be the same as the final release.

And before that is confirmed as true, and a bit strange, I still think there is an issue with performance.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:38 pm

BMoore wrote:
Ogopogo wrote:No, as they said, there is reason to believe that the performance in the beta will not be the same as the final release.
And before that is confirmed as true, and a bit strange, I still think there is an issue with performance.

I can confirm that "this" is true.
I can confirm that "this" is strange.
I can confirm that BMoore still thinks there is an issue with performance.

Hey, we don't even need cats to have fun!

Sorry, couldn't resist...

Cheers,

Tom

BMoore · Post by **BMoore** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:46 pm

Oh well. More smoke.
I'm out.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:22 pm

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ChiTown24 · Post by **ChiTown24** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:38 am

Audio demos of the stock instruments & fx.
or is no one interested in how this thing actually sounds ?

CableChannel · Post by **CableChannel** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:46 am

Hey guys, just want to tackle, is this still the cats thread or do I get banned if I dare?

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Wed Oct 16, 2013 11:50 am

CableChannel wrote:Hey guys, just want to tackle, is this still the cats thread or do I get banned if I dare?

Don't be a pussy and find out

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