what synths does/can DIVA emulate? and any good compared to.....

[Bronto Scorpio]

Diva emulates perfectly [...] Korg MS-20.

No doubt a certain someone will be along shortly to comment on that...

Well don't know why I used word perfectly because it certainly brings controversy. Should have said: Diva emulates this and that very well. Now. Happy?

The MS-20 has a semi modular architecture that Diva does not have. Diva also doesn't have an emulation of the MS-20's filters or oscs. So why would it be a good emulation of it?

Korg does have a decent emulation, though TBH I never compared it to a real one.. in fact I've never played a real MS-20.

Diva does have emulations of the MS-20 osc and both revisions of the HP and LP filters.

You can also replicate all modulation routings from the original MS-20 in Diva iirc, except the dynamic ring modulation (but that will be fixed in an update afaik).

Cheers
Dennis

[hakey]

You can also replicate all modulation routings from the original MS-20 in Diva iirc, except the dynamic ring modulation

There's more to it than that, iirc, but it's pretty esoteric stuff... not worth worrying about.

Diva is a far closer emulation, so far as the osc>filter behaviour is concerned, than Korg's effort (understandably - the Korg Legacy is pretty long in the tooth now).

[Urs]

The MS-20 has a semi modular architecture that Diva does not have..

Well, the MS-20 has a flexible, modularesque routing of modulations, and modulations only. You can't however change the VCOs-HP-LP-VCA routing of the audio path in any way. You can only insert a signal into the filters, like in many other synths - which doesn't make it modular.

The MS-20 has an audio to CV converter that can track frequency and volume of external signals. This is something Diva does not have. On top, I recently learned that one can modulate VCO2 of the MS-20 separately of VCO1, which we hadn't seen . That really is the only thing worth mentioning that we missed.

I still can't believe how two years went by...

[hakey]

I recently learned that one can modulate VCO2 of the MS-20 separately of VCO1)

"recently"?

[zerocrossing]

Diva emulates perfectly [...] Korg MS-20.

No doubt a certain someone will be along shortly to comment on that...

Well don't know why I used word perfectly because it certainly brings controversy. Should have said: Diva emulates this and that very well. Now. Happy?

The MS-20 has a semi modular architecture that Diva does not have. Diva also doesn't have an emulation of the MS-20's filters or oscs. So why would it be a good emulation of it?

Korg does have a decent emulation, though TBH I never compared it to a real one.. in fact I've never played a real MS-20.

Diva does have emulations of the MS-20 osc and both revisions of the HP and LP filters.

You can also replicate all modulation routings from the original MS-20 in Diva iirc, except the dynamic ring modulation (but that will be fixed in an update afaik).

Cheers
Dennis

Well shut my mouth! See what happens when you start typing...

[Urs]

I recently learned that one can modulate VCO2 of the MS-20 separately of VCO1)

"recently"?

I think it was this year... or maybe I refused to believe it for a long time...

(even when we looked at the hardware and followed the description, it took us a while to figure it out)

[hakey]

Well, here's another one for you then: apparently, there's a really easy way to mod an ms20 to allow pwm (there's a pin waiting for it on the voice card).

And pwm would be useful on the Eco VCO.

[Urs]

Well, here's another one for you then: apparently, there's a really easy way to mod an ms20 to allow pwm (there's a pin waiting for it on the voice card).

And pwm would be useful on the Eco VCO.

We have a PWM modded MS-20. It's, ahem, hard labour trying to like it. Is somehow unipolar or exponential. Doesn't work properly with LFO.

That said, the Digital Osc might fulfill a lot of wishes that were left to be desired

[hakey]

Ah, okay.

[fluffy_little_something]

so im really thinking about diva, i was scrolling through some presets and fiddling around, it has something like SYLENTH1 which i like, it might be imagination as im no sound designer sadly..... but it kinda felt powerful and warm/bright if you want without sounding fake, maybe it has this impression cause i dunno how to sound design the sounds well in other vsts, so dont take my impression professional i guess.

many people recommended me the juno from arturia, prophet etc. for the 80s sounds, presets and feel, i read that diva can also emulate juno for example, how is this emulation compared to arturias?
and which other synths can diva emulate well too?

Does Arturia even offer a Juno emulation?

[Caine123]

so im really thinking about diva, i was scrolling through some presets and fiddling around, it has something like SYLENTH1 which i like, it might be imagination as im no sound designer sadly..... but it kinda felt powerful and warm/bright if you want without sounding fake, maybe it has this impression cause i dunno how to sound design the sounds well in other vsts, so dont take my impression professional i guess.

many people recommended me the juno from arturia, prophet etc. for the 80s sounds, presets and feel, i read that diva can also emulate juno for example, how is this emulation compared to arturias?
and which other synths can diva emulate well too?

Does Arturia even offer a Juno emulation?

sry i mean jupiter!

[Caine123]

so this vst one would be a nice addition to diva i guess? as it should be unique if diva is not really emulating this, did i understand correct?
cause the vst sounds cool!

http://www.sonicprojects.ch/opxpro2/description.html

[Sendy]

Well, here's another one for you then: apparently, there's a really easy way to mod an ms20 to allow pwm (there's a pin waiting for it on the voice card).

And pwm would be useful on the Eco VCO.

We have a PWM modded MS-20. It's, ahem, hard labour trying to like it. Is somehow unipolar or exponential. Doesn't work properly with LFO.

That said, the Digital Osc might fulfill a lot of wishes that were left to be desired

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the digital oscillator will give us the key to both dynamic ring modulation (i.e. pitch sweeps on one osc only) and 'ring sync' patches where both ringmod and sync is enabled (like that needed spelling out... ).

Ring modulation and sync go together like... ring modulation and sync.

[electro]

so this vst one would be a nice addition to diva i guess? as it should be unique if diva is not really emulating this, did i understand correct?
cause the vst sounds cool!

http://www.sonicprojects.ch/opxpro2/description.html

It comes with a comprehensive preset library but isn't x64 native. There are more unique synths that would better complement something like DIVA. DIVA is the best VA synth to own when you can only have one because it covers so much ground (5 different Synthesizers under the hood). OP-XPro2 is based on a precise parameter matched emulation of an Oberheim OB-X. You can judge for yourself how close they got it.


The upcoming DIVA update is said to contain Oberheim modules which should give it an even higher price / value ratio than it already has.

[Sendy]

OP-X is nearly perfect but suffers one annoying flaw - it's oscillators have a variable cutoff (harmonic count), so much that sometimes a high cutoff value has nothing to work with, and other times it does.

Seriously, play random notes through a spectrograph, you'll see what I call the "skyline effect". Some notes are audibly dull compared to their neighbours. I treat it as part of the character of the instrument, but I can imagine not everybody would be willing to do that.