The All In One Source Bitwig Information & Speculation Thread

[ThomasHelzle]

Yeah, I was a wounded p...k for a while, I too would like to extend appreciation.

You are very welcome! I think we had a bit of a misunderstanding a while back...

Cheers,

Tom

[trimph1]

Yeah, I was a wounded p...k for a while, I too would like to extend appreciation.

You are very welcome! I think we had a bit of a misunderstanding a while back...

Cheers,

Tom

Thanks for the valuable information Tom!!

[ThomasHelzle]

[mooter]

One more thing: I just tried and yes, you can have automation independent of the lenght of your clip:

A 7 bar bass melody is running, I put a NotePitchShifter before the instrument and automate it's Coarse Pitch Value over 21 Bars so that it goes up one note every 7 bars. I loop that Automation at 21 bars and have now 3 repetitions of the 7 Bars, each one note higher as the one before.
Then I added a Resonance Automation with just 3 Bars length, also looping...

This is brilliant and can create extreme complexity from one simple loop when having multiple automations, each with a different lenght!

Cool

Cheers,

Tom

Sounds Amazing, to my knowledge there really hasn't been anything in the daws I've used so far to do anything remotely close to this.

Can't wait, finally a daw where it seems that midi,and instruments and automation is a main large focus.

This has been doable with unlocked clip loop envelopes in Live for some time.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm giddy over BW.

[crazyfiltertweaker]

Hello Bitwggies:

1.There are clip and the traditional track automation. If I use clip automation and there is no automation after that, is there a standard value or do it use the last automation point inside the clip automation? And can I automate the same parameter with track AND clip automation?

2.And if I move, duplicate, copy&paste and delete clips and whole clip groups inside the arrnagement, do all the clip automation follows and also the track automation, if I want that?

3.If I want to change the order of clip groups inside the arrangement, and there is track automation of bus effects, do these automations follow the editing?

4.editing clip groups inside the arrangement: is there folder editing?

5.can I exchange one clip group with another inside the arrangement, as example if I chage the order of music parts?



Thanks for answers!

Somebody knows please? Please, understand me... im waiting here for years for bitwig. YOU are the betawiggers and Im the waiterwig! so please give me some infos!

[suecae_sounds]

The testers probably don't have the time to cater to every question, that we curious folks have.

So in the meantime, I think it's wise to listen to the subliminal messages in Goto 80's super track Bog I Bit, released way before Bitwig became a prominent member of the hype-machine.

http://skylined.org/ageema/cat/2007/wet ... %20bit.mp3

[ThomasHelzle]

Today I played a while with the Sampler and the result was rather fun:



(Rightclick - View Image to see full size)
This is two LFO MODs, the first with expanded Macros, containing the second and that again containing the sampler.
(Only modules contained in an LFO can receive its modulation but AFAIK you can stack them as deep as you want.)

The three used Macros control the depth of the three LFOs used. They are static in the example.
The first LFO modulates the Loop-Lenght of the sampler and the speed of the Second LFO.
The second LFO modulates Pitch.
The third LFO modulates Sample Start.
The fourth LFO modulates the speed of the third, which is a nice way to get time-variant random LFOs.

The original sample is a fluid being poured out of a bottle.
Middle C held for 50 bars...
No other effects were used but the BWS limiter to prevent spikes.
I didn't automate a fadeout at the end so I did that in Ocenaudio (which I just saw is available for Linux too - yay ).
No other edits.

This is the audio-export window of BWS:



And finally the audio:

http://www.screendream.de/stuff/Bitwig/Watering.wav
96kHz - 24 Bit. 60 MB.

Very capable for sounddesign.

Sounds lovely to me - YMMV.

Cheers,

Tom

[firepile]

And finally the audio:

http://www.screendream.de/stuff/Bitwig/01_Watering.wav
96kHz - 24 Bit. 60 MB.
Not sure the KVR-Player can play that back

Very capable for sounddesign.

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[ThomasHelzle]

Oooops - Typo - try again
I edited the link above.

Cheers,

Tom

[Igro]

Question:

I checked a few videos about the modulation. Pretty flexible. Can I modulate with the built-in LFO effect any parameters of any external synth? In other words, can I take a bitwig's built-in LFO plugin as a source and set any external synth (third-party) parameters as a destination? That would be handy if you are using a synth with just a few built-in LFOs available.

If this will be possible, then i'm sold.

[ThomasHelzle]

External as in VST? Yes, all VST parameters can be modulated with high precision.
That's what I love about the system.
In my example above, the sampler could be a VST just as well.

If you mean External as in Hardware Synths then I'm unsure.
While there is a Hardware Instrument that lets you send out Midi and get back Audio, I don't think the modulators create Midi ATM.

Cheers,

Tom

[Ogopogo]

^As I think Thomas mentioned earlier, the only issue with that is that you can't do it right on the plugins interface, you have to do it on the plugins little device representation box in the device bar, in which there is a scrollable list of all the parameters and their values. It's got a search bar though so it looks like it's easy enough to use.

[Igro]

External as in VST? Yes, all VST parameters can be modulated with high precision.
That's what I love about the system.
In my example above, the sampler could be a VST just as well.

If you mean External as in Hardware Synths then I'm unsure.
While there is a Hardware Instrument that lets you send out Midi and get back Audio, I don't think the modulators create Midi ATM.

Cheers,

Tom

I mean can I use bitwig's LFO plugin to modulate the Sylenth's cutoff, for instance?

[ThomasHelzle]

If you move a button in a VST GUI and have the Automation Lanes visible, that parameter is shown instantly in the "current" top Lane, which makes it easy to find the parameter you need for Automation.
I made a FR for the same functionality for the VST Parameter List in the device chain - move your knob and instantly have it visible for modulation. Would be nice IMO.

As Ogopogo said, you also have a search function, so if the developer used sensible names, you can be very fast there, especially since if you for instance enter "FM", all parameters that contain FM are shown instantly while you type and you would get everything concerning FM right away.

There also is a button to only show automated parameters which I hope will be extended to also include modulated parameters.

Cheers,

Tom

[ThomasHelzle]

I mean can I use bitwig's LFO plugin to modulate the Sylenth's cutoff, for instance?

Yes Smooth and clean.

I can't test Sylenth since I don't have it, but in other VSTs it works beautifully so I see no reason why it shouldn't work in Sylenth.

Cheers,

Tom