KVR Audio

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:26 pm

crimsonwarlock wrote:Am I correct in that parameters are not controllable with automation and/or midi.

Oh I'm out if this is the case

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:28 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:
crimsonwarlock wrote:Am I correct in that parameters are not controllable with automation and/or midi.
Oh I'm out if this is the case

If this is indeed the case, I'm out as well I guess

But let's wait for confirmation or (hopefully) some info to the contrary.

Alix Cooper · Post by **Alix Cooper** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:55 pm

Also a synth i wasn't aware of.
Will try and see if i come up with something worth showing

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:09 pm

I can use automation just fine in Renoise but if it definitly does not work at all in some DAWs, let me know which and I can have a look.

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:13 pm

payne_bc wrote:I can use automation just fine in Renoise but if it definitly does not work at all in some DAWs, let me know which and I can have a look.

It doesn't seem to work in Reaper. Just to make sure; I'm trying to MIDI-learn the controls so I can control them from my midi-keyboard. I can see all the controls in the dropdown in Reaper, but mapping a MIDI-controller (CC-number) to them doesn't seem to work.

EDIT: if there is a fixed CC-controller mapping then that will work as well, but then we need to have a list with the controller mappings.

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:20 pm

crimsonwarlock wrote:
payne_bc wrote:I can use automation just fine in Renoise but if it definitly does not work at all in some DAWs, let me know which and I can have a look.
It doesn't seem to work in Reaper. Just to make sure; I'm trying to MIDI-learn the controls so I can control them from my midi-keyboard. I can see all the controls in the dropdown in Reaper, but mapping a MIDI-controller (CC-number) to them doesn't seem to work.

EDIT: if there is a fixed CC-controller mapping then that will work as well, but then we need to have a list with the controller mappings.

I'll look into it tonight. Maybe this is easily fixable.

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:23 pm

payne_bc wrote:I'll look into it tonight. Maybe this is easily fixable.

That would be great. It's a really inspirational synth from my first experience with it

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:16 pm

Okay got it. I can implement that but to me it seems the quickest way would be a fixed list for now. I suppose that should be done within the next hours. A learn function would be real handy but if I understood it right, I have to do that completely on my end (User selects a parameter in Tunefish, then tweaks knob and I will look for the MIDI event that comes in and there I have my mapping)

HiEnergy · Post by **HiEnergy** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:22 pm

For me it looks as if the VST parameters were properly exposed, at least in Reaper. Shouldn't it be sufficient to learn the assignment in the DAW?

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:23 pm

okay, I think I need to install Reaper and check for myself how it works

rp314 · Post by **rp314** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:29 pm

OSC 57: Tunefish

■Rules: Submissions MUST comply with ALL the rules here
+ Either Tunefish 2 or Tunefish 3 can be used (only one)
+ Entries must be submitted before 1st November KVR time.

1st of November 2014? Or maybe KVR time goes in reverse...

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:33 pm

payne_bc wrote:Okay got it. I can implement that but to me it seems the quickest way would be a fixed list for now. I suppose that should be done within the next hours. A learn function would be real handy but if I understood it right, I have to do that completely on my end (User selects a parameter in Tunefish, then tweaks knob and I will look for the MIDI event that comes in and there I have my mapping)

Fixed CC-mapping would be enough. I'm using several midi-mappers to get synths hooked up (did that with CM-101 in the last OSC, as it also has fixed mappings).

However, it seems that the VST-parameters are indeed exposed correctly to the DAW (as HiEnergy mentions). Only after mapping they don't react to the mapped CC-signal. Looking for yourself might be the quickest way to figure it out. But if you want me to test things or look at certain things just let me know. I hacked together my own special midi-mapper for my keyboard (it has some strange fixed CC messages on some controls) so I have some 'additional' midi-monitoring running anyway

crimsonwarlock · Post by **crimsonwarlock** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:39 pm

payne_bc wrote:okay, I think I need to install Reaper and check for myself how it works

Just to keep you from looking where to find anything in Reaper:

- left-mousebutton in the track area, choose 'add new virtual instrument on track' (this will setup all the correct switches for receiving midi and monitoring the output of the synth).

- in the synth GUI window, click the 'param' button (top right) for the parameter list and learn functions.

payne_bc · Post by **payne_bc** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:40 pm

Okay, I implented a fixed mapping, please check and see if this does anything for you. Lowpass cutoff is on 39 for example.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... f3_x64.zip
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/233 ... f3_x86.zip

I'll play a bit with reaper myself and see if I can figure it out, too

photonic · Post by **photonic** » Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:53 pm

Hi, has anyone tried TunefishV3RC with Cubase before?

I have: WinXP32, Cubase Essential 5

Most of the presets are just a very short and noisy pluck, even the strings. When I try to modify the ADSR I got no usefull times for attack and release. The release allways sounds like cut or gated.
And SAVIhost allways crashes when I try to open Tunefish.

Similar experiences?

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