FL Studio still the top dog!

[musikmachine]

A hidden secret why FLS appeals beginners (nothing wrong with that, btw!) and therefore the huge mass of new producerz is the fact that it is the most comfortable* DAW for users that don't have a midi keyboard - at least at the beginning.

(*don't know Reason but it came years after FLS and is much more expensive)

You actually hit on a good point there, i'm very comfortable editing in FL. I play and record stuff into Maschine and then i take it into FL to edit out the drums and midi. But in a pattern with 32 bars of midi it's really easy to keep an overview of the pattern, click on one and you're straight into the piano roll.

One nice trick i came across was drawing the notes of the scale you're working in across several octaves then enabling ghost notes, great if you're learning theory.

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[musikmachine]

That list is a joke... and so is that site... nice linkbait thou.

"Hey everyone! Let's put Fruity Hoops above Live, Logic, Studio One, Pro Tools! We'll get tons of butthurt traffic!"

f**king lolz

So ppl can't express their preferences anymore without getting talked down? It clearly states: "MusicRadar users have voted FL Studio their favourite DAW". Ppl use whatever feels right to them - what's so surprising in seeing FL highly ranked? It's dead easy to work with: up front you have the step sequencer with the piano roll to build loops & phrases in a matter of minutes and next to it it's the playlist in which you arrange the patterns - it can't get simpler than that. It may not be a "traditional DAW environment", but it doesn't take time to get it. Most other DAWs have a longer learning curve and that might be difficult for someone just starting to mess with music software. However if you go deeped in FL you will discover there's a lot more going on under the hood.

Did you not read the bit about how FL is most the most cracked bedroom teenager warez program out there?

You really think it's b/c "people use whatever feels right to them?" or b/c it's freely available warez and teenager proof?

Please...

And spare me the moral high ground reverse judgement bs -- people can express themselves anyway they want -- just don't try to pull a fast one!

#1 DAW is Fruity Loops?

Good one mate!

I just not sure how you know it'd the most cracked and how you can make the connection from that to the MR poll.

Maybe it has got more to do with the cost and ease of use but that's only really improved since about version 9, i used to find it a pita to do certain things with but now it's all gravy so maybe a lot more people are coming to it, especially people just getting into music; again the price is good and it's got the performance mode and now multitouch. Patcher is like a modular environment, you can make custom instruments and fx and work around things like routing midi plugins.

So it's getting better it's just got a weird workflow paradigm. Or maybe i drank the kool aid.

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[idfpower]

Did you not read the bit about how FL is most the most cracked bedroom teenager warez program out there?

You really think it's b/c "people use whatever feels right to them?" or b/c it's freely available warez and teenager proof?

Please...

And spare me the moral high ground reverse judgement bs -- people can express themselves anyway they want -- just don't try to pull a fast one!

#1 DAW is Fruity Loops?

Good one mate!

First of all, in order to make a judgement about something you need to actually test it; otherwise you wouldn't say such nonsense about FL Studio not being a DAW.

Second, most DAWs are craked nowadays. That has nothing to do with why FL is popular. Or are you implying that all major DAWs are popular because ppl can get craked versions? Just because you get (illegal) access to software doesn't mean you automatically get full knowledge about that program, and some DAWs can be quite intimidating for a beginner - while FL is not.

Have you ever thought that maybe FL Studio is popular among the younger generation because they don't have preconceptions about how a proper DAW should look & function?

Bottom line is: it doesn't matter how you make music as long as it sounds good. You may be using absolute top pro software and still come up with shiet, while other folks manage to create outstanding songs with minimal (non pro) software. Tools are irrelevant. I don't look at gear specs, I listen to the music.

As for the "moral high ground" and "pulling a fast one" comments... that says a lot.




PS: elassi is right - that's one of the main reasons why I also like working with FL Studio

[bmanic]

It's also because the piano roll in FL Studio is simply brilliant. I've yet to use anything that comes even close to the awesomeness of FL Studio's piano roll.

.. and I mean the very simple things like how the mouse cursor grabs the various parts of a note, how the graphics are extremely clear and intuitive to read even when zoomed out. As a counter example this is where Reaper fails miserably. It is an absolute nightmare to use compared to FL Studio.

The simple stuff. It just works in FL Studio.. and then there are some pretty advanced things you can do within the piano roll so it caters for the every day punter like me and the hardcore users.

FL Studio is still the fastest way for me personally to get a groove and melody going. It's ridiculously quick due to the way you can simply drag any sample onto the thing and start composing with either the simple steps or the piano roll. Need to quickly modify the length and tonality of the sample? No problem.. you have full ADSR control over pitch, volume and basic filtering. Very intuitive. Need more complex editing? Use Edison.. then save the edit and you are ready to continue composing.

Having said all that.. FL Studio is a nightmare to mix in. And it's a nightmare to edit and organize large projects in.. and it's virtually impossible to mix and arrange traditional recorded songs efficiently. For this task you are much better off with something like Reaper.

So yeah, anyhow, I'm not surprised FL Studio won the 2nd time in a row.

Cheers!
bManic

[idfpower]

Not cubase 6, 7, or pt 11

That's prolly because the cracking teams don't want to see their friends going mental The studio I'm currently recording in is using Cubase 7 and it drives everyone nuts with all the freakin' bugs and hickups

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[hibidy]

#1 DAW is Fruity Loops?

no it's FL Studio.

ps which daw isn't cracked? bitwig.

Don't you have to release something for it be cracked!

That's the beauty of the Bitwig copy protection system!

lolzes

[decalogue]

I'd like to add a few aspects here in regard to the discussion about FL Studio's popularity:


1) FL Studio has a special license model in that you get 100% of all the features and plugins to explore in demo mode, and then you purchase licenses to unlock the features and plugins further down the road. For entry level hobbyist bedroom producers on a budget, that's probably a very appealing concept. You just start with the $99 version and learn the software, then upgrade later on.


2) The coding pace of FL Studio is impressive, compared to other DAWs out there. As they comment in the magazine poll, you get the feeling that there's just more and more coming. More than that, I'd also say that one gets the feeling that the coders of FL Studio are very skilled AND have lot to say about the design and new features while keeping their focus on electronic music production. This is a quite unique situation, and it's the opposite from the coders of, let's say, Studio One (i.e. a few guys in Hamburg trying to please the demands of guitar players in Lousiana).


3) FL Studio is one of the few DAWs out there that's focused on electronic music production rather than audio recording (in the traditional audio engineer's concept of recording). That's probably the main (psychological) reason why so many people can't accept it is a proper DAW. Ask yourself why a DAW like Studio One is so popular among audio engineers, singers and guitarists - and you'll understand why the same people won't like FL Studio.

[hibidy]

Yeah, that makes sense. It's not like FL can't do audio, it certainly can, but that linear approach of some (I'd say actually most) hosts do is appealing for that.

Though I poke fun at the "if you don't like it don't use it" crowd, there is certainly some truth to it. Use what works best for you.

Hey, since those of us who have owned it for years get "free" updates, there is nothing to bitch about there is there? But we do, which means that all sides have a point

[dune_rave]

I'd like to add a few aspects here in regard to the discussion about FL Studio's popularity:


1) FL Studio has a special license model in that you get 100% of all the features and plugins to explore in demo mode, and then you purchase licenses to unlock the features and plugins further down the road. For entry level hobbyist bedroom producers on a budget, that's probably a very appealing concept. You just start with the $99 version and learn the software, then upgrade later on.


2) The coding pace of FL Studio is impressive, compared to other DAWs out there. As they comment in the magazine poll, you get the feeling that there's just more and more coming. More than that, I'd also say that one gets the feeling that the coders of FL Studio are very skilled AND have lot to say about the design and new features while keeping their focus on electronic music production. This is a quite unique situation, and it's the opposite from the coders of, let's say, Studio One (i.e. a few guys in Hamburg trying to please the demands of guitar players in Lousiana).


3) FL Studio is one of the few DAWs out there that's focused on electronic music production rather than audio recording (in the traditional audio engineer's concept of recording). That's probably the main (psychological) reason why so many people can't accept it is a proper DAW. Ask yourself why a DAW like Studio One is so popular among audio engineers, singers and guitarists - and you'll understand why the same people won't like FL Studio.

I add this to the above mentioned list:

4) FL is extremely open for different technologies:
-you can open Buzz machines in FL (Some might remember Jeskola Buzz)
-you can use synthmaker in FL
-You can control video animation with automation (Zgameditor), you can export video
-you can use FL as a vsti plugin
-you can sample your vstis inside Directwave, than you can work with the sampled stuff
-......