FL Studio still the top dog!

[bmanic]

@Scott:

Proud FL Studio user since version 1.4.

Cheers!
bManic

[Image-Line]

@Scott:

Proud FL Studio user since version 1.4.

Cheers!
bManic

...and thanks for your support

Regards Scott

[CTStump]

I don't know why our success seems to cause the stir it does, probably because we are not Mac based and producers/musicians (despite being 'individuals' and pursuing 'artistic freedom') seem to gravitate to the same platforms and hardware, one where FL Studio doesn't traditionally have a presence. Perhaps it's because FL Studio is not an audio-recording traditional linear DAW....and anyone who is a real musician/producer is surely needing to track a band?

First off, thank's for chiming in and congratulations are in order for this achievement however,

You only confirm with this statement the reason why all the flack comes with your platform on forums such as this. Most if not all producers have a background in linear based recording as opposed to hip-hop which evolved from single artists dependent on sample based content under spoken word.

Having musicianship skills i.e. be able to actually play an instrument is really not a requirement so the lack of respect is kinda normal. The line has blurred as to what an "Artist" really is so when you say Musician/Producer it can be debated even now and as you say only the future will tell.

I think your software works quite well for what it does, it's just not in the right category to include with other more accepted linear DAW's, right now, if is it will be the subject of debate until that changes for quite a while in my humble opinion.

[Image-Line]

You only confirm with this statement the reason why all the flack comes with your platform on forums such as this. Most if not all producers have a background in linear based recording as opposed to hip-hop which evolved from single artists dependent on sample based content under spoken word.

Having musicianship skills i.e. be able to actually play an instrument is really not a requirement so the lack of respect is kinda normal. The line has blurred as to what an "Artist" really is so when you say Musician/Producer it can be debated even now and as you say only the future will tell.

I think your software works quite well for what it does, it's just not in the right category to include with other more accepted linear DAW's, right now, if is it will be the subject of debate until that changes for quite a while in my humble opinion.

Thanks for your thoughts...

...and there is another group of people who think you can't be a real musician/composer/producer etc if you are just pushing buttons on a computer, which all DAW software users are 'really' doing

The reality is that this is a moot point as the business (or large enough chunk of it) has moved on, expanded or changed and the next generation are just getting on with it, with the tools at hand...



Regards Scott

[CTStump]

The reality is that this is a moot point as the business (or large enough chunk of it) has moved on, expanded or changed and the next generation are just getting on with it, with the tools at hand...

Obviously, Not everyone(business or consumer) has completely moved on, otherwise the debate would not be ongoing.

It's also not generational either as young and old can have similar views on the subject.

I guess it comes down to what sells, although there is more freedom in creativity any platform that work's is all that is necessary(yours included).

The "DAW" wars will never end.

[spacecult]

Having musicianship skills i.e. be able to actually play an instrument is really not a requirement so the lack of respect is kinda normal. The line has blurred

Ahh, the line really is blurred. Now I understand that a cognitive dissonance is created when throwing sequencing software into the same category as digital recording software. A modern 'DAW' is expected to do both.

Maybe, the sequencer side of fl really is that much better than the rest (windows(unless you're into renoise))?

Of course, a good ol' fashioned regular musician type could give a darn about sequencers and that old cakewalk stuff and all that...

Fl crew are obviously genuine enthusiasts with a slick marketing talent and not just some guns for hire paid by and fired by (slagged off until the give up and quit) a marketing department. How this software fits in is up to you, but its place is hard earned and truly phenomenal.

I will foolishly sooth-say that next major fl and even renoise updates will ruin a lot of preconceptions for alot of people.

[hibidy]

I'm so confused.

Are we now saying that FL is an issue because people use it w/o knowing the "musician" skills? Am I reading something wrong here?

Just because I make fun of all the "producer" wannabees, I am in no matter/way/shape/or form saying that FL is only for a 4/4 beat "producer"

W/o being up to date on FL I guarantee you (short of things just not working) I could write a modest song in FL, with audio parts in a couple of hours.

I just choose not to use FL. For many reasons.

I make jokes about things but I don't subscribe to the "it's just a toy" crowd. It's a powerful DAW that can do just about anything. I just personally don't really like some aspects of the company, and don't find it intuitive....there are other things I like more

[macmurphy]

I make jokes about things but I don't subscribe to the "it's just a toy" crowd. It's a powerful DAW that can do just about anything. I just personally don't really like some aspects of the company, and don't find it intuitive....there are other things I like more

fully agree with this. i can clearly see the substantial capabilities of FL Studio but we just don't click.

[tooneba]

So who is actrually using the software among those gossip talker?

[macmurphy]

So who is actrually using the software among those gossip talker?

are you?

[IncarnateX]

I don't know why our success seems to cause the stir it does,

Isn't it just the usual prize of fame?

If you make something bad, you have to take a lot of shit.
If you make something good, you have to take a lot of shit (but fortunately also a lot of praise to balance the shit).

We have just become increasingly spoiled during the last 10 years or more. But those of us that are old enough should keep the 80s and 90s in mind where we coped with extremely limited possibilites such as using 4 track recorders or workstations with millions of menus hidden behind very small displays.

In this light any DAW that does not crash occasionally is nothing short of a miracle, and even quite cheap in comparison to the amount of money we spent on workstations and recorders then.

[nix808]

Was there a link to the new vector UI somewhere on the net?
I will use it again if I like the UI.
I used it exclusively for some 5 years.
I don't like the way the sampler track stretches now,
it's too hard to sync with-
but cloning a track is a nice feature I am missing in Orion.

[musikmachine]

I'll have to check it later but i'm pretty sure the mopho is receiving sync as well. I normally tempo match cause there's a slight drift with the mophos clock but i'm sure it synced when i tried it...

Same with my A4, but behaves like that with reaper or studio one aswell.

A4? Yeah it drifts like a mofo (well, 1 bpm lol) but yeah i think T-CM11 is right about the sync.

Or do you mean the port issue cause i thought that was a common issue with editors stealing the ports. I've not used the mopho with an editor an awful lot but i have had various issues with them so i normally just use midi out if i want sync.

[core]

For the way I do music, FL Studio is the best thing around at the moment. Over the years I have tried a bunch of other DAWs and while I also really enjoy Ableton Live, there's nothing that quite suits my workflow as much as FL Studio does.

Best piece of software I've ever bought, alongside Reaktor.

[tony tony chopper]

FWIW: The popularity of FL Studio really is no secret to us at least...

-2. We became the darling of the Hip-Hop community at the right time and place in the development of the software music industry. Right time, right place, right product. This gave us a very important kick start.

-1. EDM (excuse the term if it offends you) also exploded in the last 8 years and FL Studio being an excellent electronic music production platform meant we were set to ride another wave (and still on it).

...multiplied by...

1. Lifetime Free Updates - mean that our active user pool continues to grow year on year. Even when people move away from music for a while and come back, or move to other DAW software, they still have FL Studio around and tend to keep using it. We have some insights to what happens with our competition and there is a reasonable amount of churn as people faced with the next $199 upgrade opt to try something else.

The size of our active/registered user base has been growing for the last 15 years...any time we have discussed numbers with business partners who have some idea of the size of our competitors, eyebrows go a long way up. And so, this means that when it comes to word of mouth we get a lot of positive support from happy long term customers who haven't had to pay a cent for years (over a decade even) for an update.

2. Instant gratification - FL Studio is ready to start making something that sounds like music (percussion) immediately after it's installed. The step-sequencer is sitting there waiting to be abused. It also ships with a bunch of pretty impressive demo projects (IMO we have the best set of demos in the business) covering a wide rage of styles. This gives new users a good idea of what the program is capable of.

you almost sound like it's beamz that you're selling..