Marxophone

[hueynym]

Just some (possibly pertinent) information regarding the Wavesfactory and rattlyandraw Marxophone libraries:

Wavesfactory:

More expensive
3.7 gig of samples
1 preset
Keyswitches
Uses 181 Meg of RAM to load
I *think* it was built for Kontakt v3 (May 2012 are file dates), as I'm using v5 and it asked me to re-save for quicker access

rattlyandraw:

Less expensive
112 MEG of samples
12 presets
many "Lo-fi" options
No keyswitches
Uses 46 Meg of RAM to load
Didn't ask me to re-save (Feb 2013 file dates)

As far as the Bolder Sounds instruments go, I don't know much about their Marxophone, and I like some of the other instruments of theirs that I do have, but they're built on Kontakt 2 or 3, and are available on various platforms (Giga, EXS, AppleLoop) so there isn't the scripting that's available on the first two.

In terms of sound, I really think it's more subjective ....

I hope this helps...

[robogone]

Thanks for laying that out. I'm thinking I might just get the Rattle and Raw one as I like the thought of the 12 different instruments.

[jcrisman]

Get a Leninophone instead. It's much more revolutionary.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Since you made mention, Lenin was fond of the theremin...



http://www.thereminvox.com/story/495/

Mattis: What did Lenin think of it, and why did you show it to him?

Theremin: In the Soviet Union at that time everyone was interested in new things, in particular all the new uses of electricity: for agriculture, for mechanical uses, for transport, for communication. And so then, at that time, when everyone was interested in these fields, I decided to create a musical use for electricity. I made a few first apparatuses that were made [based on principles of] the human interference of radio waves in space, at first used in [electronic] security systems, then applied to musical purposes. I made it, and I showed it at that time to the leaders. There was a big electronics conference in Moscow, and I showed my instruments there. It made a big splash. It was written up in the literature and the newspapers, of which we had many at that time, and many doors were opened [for me then] in the Soviet Union. And so Vladimir Il'yich Lenin, the leader of our state, learned that I had shown an interested thing at this conference, and he wanted to get acquainted with it himself. So they asked me to come with my apparatus, with my musical instrument, to his office, to show him. And I did so.

Mattis: What did Lenin think of it?

Theremin: I brought my apparatus and set it up in his large office in the Kremlin. He was not yet there because he was in a meeting. I waited with Fotiva, his secretary, who was a good pianist, a graduate of the conservatory. She said that a little piano would be brought into the office, and that she would accompany me on the music that I would play. So we prepared, and about an hour and a half later Vladimir Il'yich Lenin came with those people with whom he had been in conference in the Kremlin. He was very gracious; I was very pleased to meet him, and then I showed him the signaling system of my instrument, which I played by moving my hands in the air, and which was called at that time the thereminvox. I played a piece [of music]. After I played the piece they applauded, including Vladimir Il'yich [Lenin], who had been watching very attentively during my playing. I played Glinka's "Skylark", which he loved very much, and Vladimir Il'yich said, after all this applause, that I should show him, and he would try himself to play it. He stood up, moved to the instrument, stretched his hands out, left and right: right to the pitch and left to the volume. I took his hands from behind and helped him. He started to play "Skylark". He had a very good ear, and he felt where to move his hands to get the sound: to lower them or to raise them. In the middle of this piece I thought that he could himself, independently, move his hands. So I took my hands off of his, and he completed the whole thing independently, by himself, with great success and with great applause following. He was very happy that he could play on this instrument all by himself.

(I'm not sure why this posted as a blank the first time.)

[hueynym]

Thanks for laying that out. I'm thinking I might just get the Rattle and Raw one as I like the thought of the 12 different instruments.

A couple of things I forgot to mention:

The rattlyandraw instrument is restricted to the 2 octaves in the key of C, The Wavesfactory isn't.

Also (which only worried me for about 1/2 an hour) Wavesfactory's PayPal cart is setup so that you get your download links right away. I think because rattlyandraw are new and maybe have to process it manually, it took 1/2 hour to get the download link to one of those throttled download sites, so it took almost 3 times longer to download the rattlyandraw file as it did to download the much larger Wavesfactory one. But, once that's done, it's not a big deal.

If you're just going to get ONE, and you can live with everything in the key of C, then rattlyandraw is probably the way to go.

Hope this helps...

[robogone]

Do you know if the Rattle and Raw one has sampled the strings of an original? I don't really care if the range is limited to a typical marxophone as I probably wouldn't be interested in anything outside of that range.

[Zombie Queen]

Another option.

Not so much detail on that one on their site. Do you use it?

Yes. I have it, it's been a while, I think. The instruments are light, no velocity layers, no scripting. Definitely not detailed, but useful. Marxophone basic patch takes less than 2MB samples. I can't remember, if I used marxophone anywhere, I remember I used their dulcimer + autoharp on a track. There: http://soundcloud.com/fairlyconfused/lo ... ssert-rats

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[robogone]

So I guess one other question about these is whether or not the rate of the trills can be varied? My guess would be not as the rate would depend on the sampled instrument, but it would be great if that was possible.

[fluffy_little_something]

Just happened to see that in the products box on the right side:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/the-mar ... ly-and-raw

Oops, sorry, has already been mentioned


Before this thread I had never even heard that word, odd name...
But I assume I have heard it before without knowing it...

[robogone]

Yeah, I saw that this morning. Thinking that's the one I'll probably get.

[FLWrd]

I did get the one from Boulder, as part of the American Folk set, and used it in the only (amateur) movie I ever scored, but it worked. It's single dynamic layer, A3-G5.

[robogone]

Think I'm going to get the one from Rattly and Raw, but can't seem to get to their website - no error page, it just won't seem to complete loading.

Anyone else having problems getting to their web site?

[robogone]

OK, got the site loaded later in the day and bought and downloaded it. Will put it to some use tonight!

[djshire]

Get a Leninophone instead. It's much more revolutionary.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Quit Stalin with your answer, we want it right Mao.

[robogone]

OK, used it last night to start work on a piece for this months Music Café contest.