Tone2 Nemesis is released!
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- KVRAF
- 3329 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden
Talk about ear fatigue after THIRTEEN minutes of hysterical 0.2 dB dynamic range EDM onslaught!
My interest in Nemesis was piqued but after this auditory torture, it's reset to zero.
/Joachim
My interest in Nemesis was piqued but after this auditory torture, it's reset to zero.
/Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
- Banned
- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Is there a phase modulation trend in the making? TubeOhm, Tone2, who knows who's next...
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- KVRian
- 909 posts since 19 Aug, 2009
+1ariston wrote:Oh, how I wish they'd quit the superlatives... it's so tiring and off-putting. Unique, exclusive, not achievable with other synths, tremendous effort... yawn.?
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
To not mix up things Nemesis could do real FM, phase modulation (which was called "FM" in the DX7 but is no real FM) and also phase distortion (comparabale to that in the Casio synths). So i guess you talk about phase distortion?fluffy_little_something wrote:Is there a phase modulation trend in the making? TubeOhm, Tone2, who knows who's next...
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Well, phase whateverIngonator wrote:To not mix up things Nemesis could do real FM, phase modulation (which was called "FM" in the DX7 but is no real FM) and also phase distortion (comparabale to that in the Casio synths). So i guess you talk about phase distortion?fluffy_little_something wrote:Is there a phase modulation trend in the making? TubeOhm, Tone2, who knows who's next...
Ingo
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
I hit the stop button after just one second, that sound is also like pain in my ears...Spitfire31 wrote:Talk about ear fatigue after THIRTEEN minutes of hysterical 0.2 dB dynamic range EDM onslaught!
My interest in Nemesis was piqued but after this auditory torture, it's reset to zero.
/Joachim
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Ultra-bright, cold almost painful supersaw stabs. Check.
Derpy N-64 melodies with pitch bends at the end of every phrase. Check.
Super predictable glitching that makes you wish Windowlicker was never the seminal track it was, even though you love that track.... Freakin' CHECK.
What you have to remember about tone2 is their marketing department aims this stuff at kids. They're the ones with all the money apparently. I just ignore all their marketing blurbs and demos, because if I didn't I'd never buy a single thing of theirs, and that would be a shame because I think the majority of them are decent people and their synths are quite unique and useful. I just wish they'd get a new marketing team or get them to "tone" it down
Derpy N-64 melodies with pitch bends at the end of every phrase. Check.
Super predictable glitching that makes you wish Windowlicker was never the seminal track it was, even though you love that track.... Freakin' CHECK.
What you have to remember about tone2 is their marketing department aims this stuff at kids. They're the ones with all the money apparently. I just ignore all their marketing blurbs and demos, because if I didn't I'd never buy a single thing of theirs, and that would be a shame because I think the majority of them are decent people and their synths are quite unique and useful. I just wish they'd get a new marketing team or get them to "tone" it down
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Well but this is the truthariston wrote:Oh, how I wish they'd quit the superlatives... it's so tiring and off-putting. Unique, exclusive, not achievable with other synths
I don't know if I'm allowed to say this but Nemesis started with the sentence "Maybe we can put together a small FM synth...". Has ended up being one of the most complete synthesizer I have ever seen.
- KVRAF
- 1794 posts since 9 Apr, 2011
I am one of the kids and find the marketing annoying.
"musician."
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
I don't care about their marketing. I really like how their synths function and sound - that's all I care about.
So, I'll be will be buying this one.
So, I'll be will be buying this one.
I will take the Lord's name in vain, whenever I want. Hail Satan! And his little goblins too. 
- KVRAF
- 14436 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Planet Earth, Somewhere
Yeah for me too....its downloading their products and trying them myself that determines which ones I buy (although I have bought all their synths so far to date, well except Firebird)
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- KVRAF
- 3878 posts since 28 Jun, 2009 from Wherever I lay my hat
Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely going to check it out. It's just... we have a word in Germany called "Fremdschämen", which basically translates as "feeling embarrassed on behalf of somebody else". I don't get WHY they feel they have to be so low-brow... they're not Crysonic, FFS. They make great products.
To be honest, though, the sounds in this film are anything but "unique" to my ears. This claim is pretty ridiculous, anyway, because I think the time when synth sounds could really surprise anyone is long past. The things we can do not only with traditional synthesis, but all forms of sample-based synthesis, offer a universe of sound. Impossible to chart. To be sure, the nuances, the niceties... yeah, whatever. Synth A will never sound quite like Synth B. But, more often than not, the differences are pretty negligible, especially in a mix, more so when you add effects. Feel free to huff and puff and disagree.
Anyways, enough "negativity". Bring on the demo, cause I will surely avoid the "meticulously designed" presets drenched in reverb and delay and psychoacoustic hodgepodge and see what I can do with the init patch.
To be honest, though, the sounds in this film are anything but "unique" to my ears. This claim is pretty ridiculous, anyway, because I think the time when synth sounds could really surprise anyone is long past. The things we can do not only with traditional synthesis, but all forms of sample-based synthesis, offer a universe of sound. Impossible to chart. To be sure, the nuances, the niceties... yeah, whatever. Synth A will never sound quite like Synth B. But, more often than not, the differences are pretty negligible, especially in a mix, more so when you add effects. Feel free to huff and puff and disagree.
Anyways, enough "negativity". Bring on the demo, cause I will surely avoid the "meticulously designed" presets drenched in reverb and delay and psychoacoustic hodgepodge and see what I can do with the init patch.
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 2 May, 2005
i also find the video annoying... but will most likely buy nemesis. tone 2's marketing is terrible. but they have great and innovative products (maybe the only blurb i could tolerate), great customer support (bastiaan) and like urs they don't do sales which guarantees that once you have bought a tone 2 synth you will never feel devaluated like with other companies and their group-, anniverary-, christmas- and what not sales.
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- KVRian
- 1391 posts since 1 May, 2010
That promo video is cringeworthy. Luckily i know that their synth are excellent. I'll probably demo it once it's released. Does anybody know whether they will have intro price for nemesis?
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