LinPlug Spectral public beta for pc out

[osiris]

O.K. I d/l the demo and do a quick demo tour.
First, I don't know about 'crippling' demos. The whoosh noise is the least intrusive of any demo I've ever heard.
Sound designers dream. Hate the arp. (Hated Albino arp also) Not the sound, the way you have to program it.
This is a bass lovers dream. Would cut through any mix. For the intro price, I'd consider getting it just for the bass.
No glitches or GUI issues in FL11
BUT-
Wild CPU swings. One Arp patch would do 77%, one would do 16%, average was 33%!!!
This was not a matter of voices because the 16% patch was 16 voices, while the major one was 8.
I have to weigh this against what I already have - and I have TOO much.
Recommend you snatch this up while on sale if you need it for your arsenal.
Otherwise, I'm too poor and will have to wait and see about TNBT.....

[digitalboytn]

Spectral doesn't "sample" - you draw the waveforms like in Zebra or Absynth, no single cycle import.

There have been a few people ask Peter to include single cycle waveform input into Spectral,so I have a feeling that it will appear in a future update...

That is also one of my few requests for this Spectracular 3D synth....

Boom boom

[codec_spurt]

This is a bass lovers dream. Would cut through any mix. For the intro price, I'd consider getting it just for the bass.

That was also what impressed me so much about Harmless, so much so that I bought Harmor as well. Fat, full, cutting and smooth boing boing bass sounds a go go. With a bit of zing on top.

The fact it can do wonderful ethereal morphing pads is a bonus. Plus the percussion. Amazing versatility. (Talking about Harmor here)


So sonically I probably didn't need Spectral. But the gui just looks so sweet and to the point. Plus the Albino crossgrade price would have been silly to turn down.

It was the demo songs that really nailed it for me though. Really excellent variation of styles and sound palette.

Looking forward to booting into windows later to play about.

[Sampleconstruct]

Here comes something smoother, some host automation of Chorus Speed (which unfortunately is not a target in the Modmatrix). The lower range/bass notes were played with the same patch using a second instance of Spectral but without the Modwheel action for the filter modulation and without the Chorus speed modulation.

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/spectral-pad

[TwoToneshuzz]

And bought!

I'm doomed, I am so doomed, another thing on the list. Sounds awesome awesome wesome seome eome me e oh my..

[Sampleconstruct]

And bought!

I'm doomed, I am so doomed, another thing on the list. Sounds awesome awesome wesome seome eome me e oh my..

LOL - thank's

[SODDI]

The beta installed all weird for me - I do not know where it installed the presets to. I got weird screens, too. Can't deal with troubleshooting right now.

It looked and sounded interesting. Maybe I should try the demo of the commercial version. The commercial version is on sale for $99 and I am in the market for a real electronic-sounding synth.

[Sampleconstruct]

Here is an arp texure made with a fresh Spectral patch - this thing is alive!

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/l ... tral-synth

[Sampleconstruct]

Yes. it's alive, certainly:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... tral-synth

[codec_spurt]

The beta installed all weird for me - I do not know where it installed the presets to. I got weird screens, too. Can't deal with troubleshooting right now.

It looked and sounded interesting. Maybe I should try the demo of the commercial version. The commercial version is on sale for $99 and I am in the market for a real electronic-sounding synth.

Well, if it is anything like the other LinPlug instruments you could try looking in your Admin account if you installed as a user, or your user account if you installed in admin, depending on where you are trying to access things from. I *think* LinPlug says to install the thing twice if you want to use it on both accounts.

It sounds to me as if you are running as a user and it has installed the presets to admin, that is what happened to me anyway.

I know that some DAWs I use LinPlug instruments in, the instruments do not remember the patches. It is a total nightmare. And DAWs that are installed as admin behave differently with Daws that run in user. For example, when Studio One is installed as admin, all synths lose their serials and have to be re-installed again. But then they do remember the presets properly. Because I installed in user, and the presets were saved to admin. They can now be found. But different DAWs and different VSTs operate under different logic. There is no sense to any of it, in as much as there is no standard for patch management even amongst individual developers who change it randomly without warning the user.

This patch management nightmare is not exclusive to LinPlug, for example Image-Line decided to change their patch management system recently and loads of missing presets there too. Until you search and find them. But they still don't recall by default. Basically you have to uninstall and reinstall the synths to where THEY expect to find them, not where you expect to find them. And different to where they could be found before in the previous version of FLStudio.

As for developers arguing that the way THEY do it is totally logical:
Of course, this system makes perfect sense when you realise what is going on and what the underlying logic is. It also works absolutely flawlessly. The problem is that there are quite a few permutations of User Account Control and developers only test and use their software on the permutation that they find logical. They just don't have the time to test for the 2 or 3 other major ways a lot of other people use their machines as. Which is fair enough. As most people it would seem just run everything wide open as admin with absolutely no security at all on their system. We are in a minority it would seem (running DAWs on a system with inbuilt security).

I would bet that this is your problem.

So I won't criticize the developers, if they don't call me an idiot!



You really need to read the installation notes with LinPlug instruments as this is covered there. To be fair, I didn't, and I got into a hell of a mess. So I'll accept it was my fault. Things work perfectly when you understand how it is supposed to work. Just take the time to set things up properly to start with, or else you end up like me with a totally unmanageable mess. Peter provides very good customer support if this doesn't solve your problem. Just contact him. He's always got back to me within a day or so.

At least the patch management system is consistent across the LinPlug plugins and they do advise you how to install properly. Unlike Image-Line who are neither consistent and don't give you any information.

[highkoo]

Yes. it's alive, certainly:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... tral-synth

Woooaholy sheeeiz.
Yep, alive.
Indubitably.

[SODDI]

The beta installed all weird for me - I do not know where it installed the presets to. I got weird screens, too. Can't deal with troubleshooting right now.

It looked and sounded interesting. Maybe I should try the demo of the commercial version. The commercial version is on sale for $99 and I am in the market for a real electronic-sounding synth.

Well, if it is anything like the other LinPlug instruments you could try looking in your Admin account if you installed as a user, or your user account if you installed in admin, depending on where you are trying to access things from. I *think* LinPlug says to install the thing twice if you want to use it on both accounts.

And it must be remembered that what I installed was a beta, not a demo, and that betas impose different requirements on users. So it's basically on me.

It's my considered opinion that demos should be ready for prime time, subject to their own peculiar requirements.

It sounds to me as if you are running as a user and it has installed the presets to admin, that is what happened to me anyway.

Everything on my system should be be run as admin (since the Cubase MIDI debacle), but I know you got to factor in Windows hoodoo mumbo jumbo into all equations.

I know that some DAWs I use LinPlug instruments in, the instruments do not remember the patches. It is a total nightmare. And DAWs that are installed as admin behave differently with Daws that run in user. For example, when Studio One is installed as admin, all synths lose their serials and have to be re-installed again. But then they do remember the presets properly. Because I installed in user, and the presets were saved to admin. They can now be found. But different DAWs and different VSTs operate under different logic. There is no sense to any of it, in as much as there is no standard for patch management even amongst individual developers who change it randomly without warning the user.

This patch management nightmare is not exclusive to LinPlug, for example Image-Line decided to change their patch management system recently and loads of missing presets there too. Until you search and find them. But they still don't recall by default. Basically you have to uninstall and reinstall the synths to where THEY expect to find them, not where you expect to find them. And different to where they could be found before in the previous version of FLStudio.

Oh hell, it's EVERYONE - and part of a larger issue. I've got 2 separate patch management folders in 2 different locations for Reaktor, one for their patches and one for anything I've saved. Why? I dunno. Synthmaster has installed into 3 separate locations and damned if I know which one has the third-party patches in it.

And that's my fault because I don't watch those pesky little default install options carefully enough - too horny to get those .dlls into the right folder.

As for developers arguing that the way THEY do it is totally logical: Of course, this system makes perfect sense when you realise what is going on and what the underlying logic is. It also works absolutely flawlessly. The problem is that there are quite a few permutations of User Account Control and developers only test and use their software on the permutation that they find logical. They just don't have the time to test for the 2 or 3 other major ways a lot of other people use their machines as. Which is fair enough. As most people it would seem just run everything wide open as admin with absolutely no security at all on their system. We are in a minority it would seem (running DAWs on a system with inbuilt security).

It's all logical. I have no doubt about that. The problem is that it is all DIFFERENT.

I would bet that this is your problem.

One of these days I'm going to do do a full file mangement rebuild for everything, reinstall instruments that want x for the file system when what is needed is y.

The very next day you'll probably hear me crying that none of my synths work properly. Boo-f**king-hoo. (smirk)

So I won't criticize the developers, if they don't call me an idiot!:-)

Criticizing them for file install weirdness is quite a different thing to criticizing their instruments.

You really need to read the installation notes with LinPlug instruments as this is covered there. To be fair, I didn't, and I got into a hell of a mess. So I'll accept it was my fault. Things work perfectly when you understand how it is supposed to work. Just take the time to set things up properly to start with, or else you end up like me with a totally unmanageable mess. Peter provides very good customer support if this doesn't solve your problem. Just contact him. He's always got back to me within a day or so.

At least the patch management system is consistent across the LinPlug plugins and they do advise you how to install properly. Unlike Image-Line who are neither consistent and don't give you any information.

I have no Linplugs, so at least this is an object lesson in what to expect should I choose to purchase Spectral. Which I amm considering.

Nice talking with you.

[metamorphosis]

Somebody should probably change the title of this thread...

[Sampleconstruct]

Spectral meets Trash 2 - quite an alien combo:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... eets-trash

[Sampleconstruct]

Spectral meets B2 reverb, such a rich synth this is.....:

http://soundcloud.com/sampleconstruct/s ... d-meets-b2