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T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:14 pm

mattasbob wrote:It looks right to me as well but obviously something is amiss here as the track you sent me does not work either.

It doesn't open? Or you hear no sound? If the latter, if you draw in a few notes on the track, do you hear Prologue?

mattasbob · Post by **mattasbob** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:56 pm

Opens in cubase no problem, but there is no midi out from thesys. It works fine running it's internal synth. So my original problem of no midi out from thesys continues.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:51 pm

mattasbob wrote:Opens in cubase no problem, but there is no midi out from thesys. It works fine running it's internal synth. So my original problem of no midi out from thesys continues.

And does other midi input work? (Notes played on a midi keyboard e.g.)

mattasbob · Post by **mattasbob** » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:30 pm

Yes I can get input from my keyboards etc... Without any problem.

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:31 am

If Cubase would include the VST Midi FX in the same menu as MFX (they call them Midi Plugins) that would make using Thesys and the like much easier.

After all MFX and VST (actually VSTi) Midi Fx have midi in and midi out.

Why not include both in the Midi Inserts and Midi Sends menus.

mattasbob · Post by **mattasbob** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:41 pm

I spent over an hour today, starting from scratch and no matter how I set the midi and monitoring up I couldn't get midi out of Thesys. Anyone who is running Thesys in Cubase 7 windows 7 and can get midi out of thesys to another vsti please advise. Oddly I downloaded another vsti that produced midi out 7 Aliens Cantanya which worked instantly in the way explained by everyone to use thesys. I don't understand how to even troubleshoot anymore.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:35 am

mattasbob wrote:I don't understand how to even troubleshoot anymore.

I have no idea either. Why not contact Sugar Bytes about it?

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:49 am

mattasbob wrote:I spent over an hour today, starting from scratch and no matter how I set the midi and monitoring up I couldn't get midi out of Thesys. Anyone who is running Thesys in Cubase 7 windows 7 and can get midi out of thesys to another vsti please advise. Oddly I downloaded another vsti that produced midi out 7 Aliens Cantanya which worked instantly in the way explained by everyone to use thesys. I don't understand how to even troubleshoot anymore.

Thesys in the VST Instruments rack under Devices, target instrument as a regular instrument track with the MIDI input set to Thesys?

Then you get Thesys up and running, (all velocities up), highlight your target synth and it should start receiving MIDI from Thesys? Highlight the Thesys instrument "track" to send any MIDI to Thesys?

I'm just starting Thesys but that is how I've had my small successes. I need more time to study it.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:08 am

SODDI wrote: Thesys in the VST Instruments rack under Devices, target instrument as a regular instrument track with the MIDI input set to Thesys?

Then you get Thesys up and running, (all velocities up), highlight your target synth and it should start receiving MIDI from Thesys? Highlight the Thesys instrument "track" to send any MIDI to Thesys?

I'm just starting Thesys but that is how I've had my small successes. I need more time to study it.

I sent him a project where Thesys is playing Prologue. It works here, but not for him - so I don't think the project settings are the problem.

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:11 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
SODDI wrote: Thesys in the VST Instruments rack under Devices, target instrument as a regular instrument track with the MIDI input set to Thesys?

Then you get Thesys up and running, (all velocities up), highlight your target synth and it should start receiving MIDI from Thesys? Highlight the Thesys instrument "track" to send any MIDI to Thesys?

I'm just starting Thesys but that is how I've had my small successes. I need more time to study it.
I sent him a project where Thesys is playing Prologue. It works here, but not for him - so I don't think the project settings are the problem.

Thesys seems to be kind of tempermental.

As I said, I'm new to Thesys - I've run into situations where it doesn't STAY transmitting MIDI.

I really need to buy a used Nook or Kindle just to properly read .pdf manuals while I dick with the programs.

mattasbob · Post by **mattasbob** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:57 pm

Temperamental would be nice, I get nothing. Going back and forth with tech support from Sugar Bytes. Will post any advances in progress.

mattasbob · Post by **mattasbob** » Wed Dec 11, 2013 7:49 pm

Apparently the fix was to update the USB-licenser software for cubase. No idea why but thesys is running properly now and that's what matters. Thanks all for the help and troubleshooti tips.

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:54 am

mattasbob wrote:Apparently the fix was to update the USB-licenser software for cubase. No idea why but thesys is running properly now and that's what matters. Thanks all for the help and troubleshooti tips.

What an absurd solution! I would never have thought of that...

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Fri Dec 13, 2013 6:13 am

T-CM11 wrote:
mattasbob wrote:Apparently the fix was to update the USB-licenser software for cubase. No idea why but thesys is running properly now and that's what matters. Thanks all for the help and troubleshooti tips.
What an absurd solution! I would never have thought of that...

Typical left field Steinberg glitch - I mean, feature.

I actually solved my first problems with a Thesys fix. Before you first launch Thesys, right when you put it in the Instrument Rack, turn OFF the internal synth. Then, pull up your Instrument track synth, highlight the instrument just once, then highlight Thesys and start Cubase rolling.

I don't know why that highlighting thing works, it just does.

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