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Urs wrote:I hope this works - I needed to check out revision 1331, adjust the expiration date and build installers… a bit of a stunt but well… if it doesn't work then I'll have to try and fix it inbetween the holidays...

Here's Bazille 0.6 extended for 2014:

Bazille1331Win.zip,
Bazille1331Mac.zip,
Thanks for this late gift :)
Urs wrote:With the releases of Satin, Diva 1.3 and with the advent of AAX support, Bazille has climbed top of the list for new developments. We'll also have VST3 to rework, Satin 1.2 to release and Satin RE to work on. However, those just need time from single people and testing. The major effort of the crew is shifting towards Bazille from January (2014).
Allow me to say: It's about time :love:
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Just out of curiosity. Will we still have an ACE XL sometime in the future too? And what about LUSH (or whatever it had been renamend in between)?
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fmr wrote:Allow me to say: It's about time :love:
2013 was a tough year. Too much stress with too many useless things :-?

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Urs wrote:
fmr wrote:Allow me to say: It's about time :love:
2013 was a tough year. Too much stress with too many useless things :-?
I for one definitely appreciate all you guys do. I'll gladly keep buying your software...

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Urs wrote:With the releases of Satin, Diva 1.3 and with the advent of AAX support, Bazille has climbed top of the list for new developments. We'll also have VST3 to rework, Satin 1.2 to release and Satin RE to work on. However, those just need time from single people and testing. The major effort of the crew is shifting towards Bazille from January (2014).
This is good news for me. Bazille has been my main work horse synth since what... 2009? I can't wait to see your vision finalized. :)

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thanks for extending the alpha, beta, whatever-eta, Urs! Looking forward to 2014, and congrats on your successes in 2013!

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fmr wrote:Just out of curiosity. Will we still have an ACE XL sometime in the future too? And what about LUSH (or whatever it had been renamend in between)?
Well, as time went by the concept has changed. Or rather: It went back to what it originally was. In the beginning I thought of Berlin Modular as an "ACE XL" kind of synth with a bunch of VCOs, VCFs and modulators to freely patch in-between. Like 2 x ACE in one. I also thought that one could switch different flavours of this synth. The modular layout would be the same, but the sound would be different.

When I was in the middle of coding it, I got side tracked and tried to do a modular FM-synth, which then became Bazille. From then on the concept changed and it was supposed to become a bundle of modular synths. At that time I started this thread.

However, things took time again, ACE came out, then technology evolved, Diva came out, u-he grew and with us grew the ambition.

As of now we see ACE and Bazille as "spin off" products of Berlin Modular. We see Berlin Modular as the conceptual essence of "equality of audio signal and modulation". We have now planned to go back to the original idea of one synth rather than a bundle, and make Berlin Modular a synth with exchangable modules (as opposed to ACE and Bazille which have a fixed set of parts). We still think of ACE and Bazille as "teasers" whose price will be fully deductable towards Berlin Modular - once we manage to pull it off!

- Urs

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Sounds like I better start saving up for a 24-core... ;)

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Breeze wrote:Sounds like I better start saving up for a 24-core... ;)
Nah, they'll be cheap once Berlin Modular comes out.

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Just wanted to add my thanks and Seasons Greetings to Urs and the U-He team. It's very generous to extend Bazille into 2014 -- and the products and upgrades of 2013 were terrific.

So, thank you!

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Just as a general comment, I'd really like to see some panel switching capability kind of like Diva, but with a more modular synth scope. So, we could get some capabilities from say Serge or Buchla with the oddly random CV interactions. The West Coast synthesis is very very different than the East Coast (Moog) subtractive modular synthesis approach.
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SJ_Digriz wrote:Just as a general comment, I'd really like to see some panel switching capability kind of like Diva, but with a more modular synth scope. So, we could get some capabilities from say Serge or Buchla with the oddly random CV interactions. The West Coast synthesis is very very different than the East Coast (Moog) subtractive modular synthesis approach.
+1!

And Thank YOU for this prezzie Urs 8)

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I'm also interested into the 'West Coast'. For software, there is only Aalto that goes into that direction, while for hardware there are a lot of new modules available since some years from various developers (not Buchla, although they also made some new).

I'm not so sure if I wanted switchable panels. I have no problems with Diva, but I also like the fixed Aalto design. These things are complicated enough, I think the user profits from a clear UI that she/he will know well after some time and gets used to it.

But Buchla/Serge-like modules would contradict the Berlin Modular concept I think. Which is I believe pretty much East Coast so to speak. Maybe it is better to finish the Berlin Modular, and after that create something new: u-he Buchla. Bu-hechla. That would be simply great.

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Phil999 wrote:I'm also interested into the 'West Coast'.
I tend to think of "West Coast" as an approach to synthesis, not a specific type of synthesizer. Then again, I don't really subscribe to the who East Coast/West Coast thing too much.

However, I understand what you mean and based on my experience with Serge and Buchla modulars, I find it's pretty easy to get those kinds of sounds from Bazille, though it doesn't claim to be teh Serge or Buchla. The filters can be 'pinged' (send a short envelope or a square wave LFO to the audio input of a filter with resonance just below self-oscillation) the FM sounds great (despite the lack of linear FM response) and there are myriad ways of getting interesting/evolving wave shapes out of the oscillators.

I think the best approach is to think outside of each module's typical role. Use the filters and sequencer as audio generators, use the oscillators as modulation generators, play with feedback routing, use the rectifiers in conjunction with the mixers as waveshapers. Quantize signals you wouldn't normally quantize, use the sample and hold liberaly. To sum it up, experiement!

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