New DIVA components

[david.beholder]

model Waldorf waves scanning oscilators.


multiply sound possibilities by x100

May be famous phase accomulator wavetables from Ensoniq / Korg / Roland also, they have lot of 80s character in sound.

[News From The Sky]

Indeed the quantize function is good for stepped modulation, but it has it's own drawbacks. Modulation passed through it is quantized in value as opposed to time, which is a weird distinction to think about and explain. Instead of a constant rhythmic change, the changes will occur depending how quickly the inputted modulation is changing. Like I said, hard to explain

No, I gotcha. Good point about time vs value quantization.

But basically a sample and hold "circuit" is much more fluid.

Yeah, I can see how that could be useful for some things. There's the Rand Hold LFO shape, but no way to apply S&H to other (non-random) LFO shapes or envelopes.

Kind of funny to be talking about reducing the rate of parameter updates when early synths with software LFOs and EGs were trying to deliver smooth, rapid-update modulation.

[Sendy]

Indeed the quantize function is good for stepped modulation, but it has it's own drawbacks. Modulation passed through it is quantized in value as opposed to time, which is a weird distinction to think about and explain. Instead of a constant rhythmic change, the changes will occur depending how quickly the inputted modulation is changing. Like I said, hard to explain

No, I gotcha. Good point about time vs value quantization.

But basically a sample and hold "circuit" is much more fluid.

Yeah, I can see how that could be useful for some things. There's the Rand Hold LFO shape, but no way to apply S&H to other (non-random) LFO shapes or envelopes.

Kind of funny to be talking about reducing the rate of parameter updates when early synths with software LFOs and EGs were trying to deliver smooth, rapid-update modulation.

I only bring it up selfishly because I realized that there's a certain quality to modulation that falls inbetween fluid and stepped that I really like, which I've picked up from listening to chip music. For example a kick drum will sound like a typical downward swept oscillator with a blast of noise on the attack, but if you look at it in a spectrograph the pitch isn't sweeping but takes on about 8 to 12 discrete pitch values held in a table. It sounds both stepped and fluid at the same time, and lends the sound a sort of computery-ness which is hard to pin down if you aren't aware of that little detail.

I have to admit I was slightly disappointed when I engaged Diva's "stepped envelope" mode and couldn't hear a damn thing . I know, Diva isn't a chipt music emulator thingy, it's emulating the steppiness of a Juno digital envelope, which on the steppiness scale of one to ten is probably a one point five.

Anyway, moving away from chiptune fetishism and back to analog fetishism, a good S+H module is certainly part and parcel of some classic analog modulations, and judging from Bazille I think it's safe to say the u-he gang know how to do it right, so fingers crossed.

[Adrian B]

oops never mind.

[softegg]

Probably , someone else already suggested it somewhere in this thread, but the one I would be most excited about would be a wasp filter. I loved daHornet, now having a version of that which is on the quality standard of Diva, would be great.

A second thing which I would love to have in Diva would be an option to share one filter between different voices, like some of the cheaper poly synths did. think Korg DW who had essentially a polyohonic osc section but a monophonic filter section. I would love to hear the kinds of distortion products this would generate with things like the ms20 filters. I think this would expand the scope of Diva quite a bit.

[Nokenoku]

Imo the one thing DIVA needs the most, are some better envelopes.

[abique]

Imo the one thing DIVA needs the most, are some better envelopes.

For sure I'd love MSEGs in Diva

[aaron aardvark]

I wonder how much Urs was influenced by this poll? Regardless, I'm very glad for the Uhbie filter.

[zvenx]

Imo the one thing DIVA needs the most, are some better envelopes.

like which hardware synth? Cause as I am sure you know Diva was meant to emulate the old hardware stuff...
rsp

[Nokenoku]

I personally wouldn't mind to also have modules, which are not coming from any hardware.
(And a JP8000 is not old/vintage in my opinion.)

[zvenx]

for some it is......you are trying to make it what it isn't
although I am not even sure why I even care.
good luck with your quest.
rsp

[knowix]

I wonder what's the practicality of adding one module that models the wavetable sections of the PPG Wave, Prophet VS and Microwave XT at the same time?

One thing I would say is that it would put Diva into direct competition with Waldorf and Wolfgang Palm. Whereas most of the other technologies appearing in Diva aren't being exploited in VST form by the original people behind them.

[Nokenoku]

for some it is......you are trying to make it what it isn't

It's a digital OSC with that famous supersaw. Not less, not more.
I am not trying to make anything out of it.

All I'm saying is, that in my opinion DIVA would profite the most from some better envelopes, and that I don't care, where they're coming from.

[pdxindy]

Imo the one thing DIVA needs the most, are some better envelopes.

What sort of improvement would you like to see?

[SJ_Digriz]

Imo the one thing DIVA needs the most, are some better envelopes.

What sort of improvement would you like to see?

My guess is most people would want something not normally considered analogish, like multipoint or looping generators. (MSEGish)


But, I do have a looping ADSR that uses an internal LFO. It has two modes, Constant or loop while gate is high.
http://www.steamsynth.com/m_VCADSR.aspx
EDIT: I should add that the above unit has a digital core. But, there are plenty of analog versions like
http://www.oakleysound.com/adsr.htm
I have the PCB and most of the parts, but no panel to build this guy.


There are also, multi-segment analog EGs but, they are kind of weird. Something like
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_ueg3.html

I wouldn't mind seeing something like a cascading EG. Heck, you might even be able to do something along these lines already. I haven't really tried.