KVR Audio

DavenH · Post by **DavenH** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:08 pm

Hey everyone,

I'd appreciate some feedback on the current beta.
Find it here: (you don't need to sign up to download I believe)

edit- link removed (beta's over :))

Compatibility I need to establish before release:

- Logic 9 compatibility (seems fine from reports, small issues aside)
- OSX 10.6 & 10.7 (I have 10.8, 10.9 seems good)

Help much appreciated. Also if you create a 20 (usable) presets you earn a license. I've had a good suggestion - if you're making presets, send me a few before investing time in 20 to see if they fit my style. My email is daven.hughes@gmail.com. If you get crash reports you can send them there too, thanks.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:18 pm

Can't install it - it's saying my serial is invalid (using my own license key, not the one on the forum)

hueynym · Post by **hueynym** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 5:45 pm

Installed okay (using Forum serial#) on OSX 10.9.1, but crashing validation on Logic Pro X (although a number of things have been since the 10.0.6 update) so am re-downloading needed components for Logic 9, and will try some other hosts whilst I wait...

DavenH · Post by **DavenH** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:07 pm

hueynym wrote:Installed okay (using Forum serial#) on OSX 10.9.1, but crashing validation on Logic Pro X (although a number of things have been since the 10.0.6 update) so am re-downloading needed components for Logic 9, and will try some other hosts whilst I wait...

Thanks. I hear Logic's validation is more stringent than Auval, correct? Or maybe it's Auval with a bunch of default options? I'm stuck without a Logic demo to test with... maybe I'll ask Apple for an nfr.

aMUSEd wrote:Can't install it - it's saying my serial is invalid (using my own license key, not the one on the forum)

There are separate keys for OSX and Windows, slightly different algorithms - the forum serial is the OSX (beta) key.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:33 pm

OSX 10.9.1

Live 9.1

It installed fine and I can go through the presets and they seem to play fine.

On the various curves on different panes, I am unable to select/move points...

For example, the volume curve in the top left... I can add points, but not grab an existing point and move it. (default tool)

Pencil tool can draw a curve, but it does not overwrite current points so it also cannot edit/delete existing points

Axe tool doesn't appear to do anything

Is this buggy? Or I am just not figuring out how to use it?

DavenH · Post by **DavenH** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:40 pm

pdxindy wrote:OSX 10.9.1

Live 9.1

It installed fine and I can go through the presets and they seem to play fine.

On the various curves on different panes, I am unable to select/move points...

For example, the volume curve in the top left... I can add points, but not grab an existing point and move it. (default tool)

Pencil tool can draw a curve, but it does not overwrite current points so it also cannot edit/delete existing points

Axe tool doesn't appear to do anything

Is this buggy? Or I am just not figuring out how to use it?

Glad to hear it's working in Live!

There's a file Cheatsheet.pdf in ~/Documents/Amaranth Audio/Cycle. It will explain selection basics, shortcuts, stuff like that.

In a nutshell, you select with right click, add with left. Left drag with the pencil tool adds lines / vertices; right drag snaps vertices to the drawn path. Axe tool only works in 3D editing panels - it's for chopping lines.

Do macs still not have right mouse buttons? That would be bad.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:46 pm

Thanks for the tips...

The pencil tools makes lots of points. Is there a way to thin that out besides one by one?

DavenH · Post by **DavenH** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:50 pm

Not as yet. It could be much smarter frankly. I tried fitting a tool parameters panel in the UI but there was no room! I can hardcode the tolerance to be greater though.

edit- what you can do is box select and delete redundant vertices. Check the pdf how to do that.

Now that I think about it, I did make some smarter curve fitting code to model cycles and impulses, I will reuse that for the pencil paths next update.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:00 pm

I have a mac running Mavericks, with Logic Pro 9. If that fits you, what is the serial (I am not in the forum). You can PM me, if you want.
BTW - Aren't registered users entitled to a mac version too?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:05 pm

DavenH wrote:Not as yet. It could be much smarter frankly. I tried fitting a tool parameters panel in the UI but there was no room! I can hardcode the tolerance to be greater though.

Now that I think about it, I did make some smarter curve fitting code to model cycles and impulses, I will reuse that for the pencil paths next update.

If a point is selected and deleted, the following point could be automatically selected... then one can hit delete a few times in a row to delete consecutive points... anyway, I understand how to control a curve now.

DavenH · Post by **DavenH** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:07 pm

fmr wrote:I have a mac running Mavericks, with Logic Pro 9. If that fits you, what is the serial (I am not in the forum). You can PM me, if you want.
BTW - Aren't registered users entitled to a mac version too?

Thank you fmr. For various reasons, mostly because I like money, there's a 10$ upgrade price to a dual license. Aren't you able to view the forum as a guest? I can log out and still see the post. Either way I'll pm you the key.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:07 pm

Also, is there a help page somewhere that gives an overview of how a sound is constructed. I haven't a clue how I would go about creating a sound from scratch.

Is there an init button?

DavenH · Post by **DavenH** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:12 pm

pdxindy wrote:Also, is there a help page somewhere that gives an overview of how a sound is constructed. I haven't a clue how I would go about creating a sound from scratch.

Is there an init button?

Do you mean a tutorial how to create a preset or how the sound is generated via the signal chain? The signal chain is illustrated in the cheatsheet file.

Tutorials are something I've had to postpone while getting this out, but I did do one http://amaranthaudio.com/tutorials/modelWave.php and will do more soon.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:13 pm

DavenH wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:Can't install it - it's saying my serial is invalid (using my own license key, not the one on the forum)

There are separate keys for OSX and Windows, slightly different algorithms - the forum serial is the OSX (beta) key.

OK I bought it to use on Mac primarily so can you send me a Mac key then please?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:53 pm

DavenH wrote:
pdxindy wrote:Also, is there a help page somewhere that gives an overview of how a sound is constructed. I haven't a clue how I would go about creating a sound from scratch.

Is there an init button?
Do you mean a tutorial how to create a preset or how the sound is generated via the signal chain? The signal chain is illustrated in the cheatsheet file.

Tutorials are something I've had to postpone while getting this out, but I did do one http://amaranthaudio.com/tutorials/modelWave.php and will do more soon.

The cheat sheet helps a bit and the tutorial more... Is there an init patch or button to set everything to default?

Cycle OSX public beta