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I've been useing Tracktion for about a year now with no major problems and it's great. The one problem that I have encountered is probally not with the software itself. Once in a while the play head(vertical purple line) will stop and emit a terrible sound(BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR)for a second or two, then continue playing back. It occasionally happens in record mode. It might not happen for a few days at a time and then it's back. The worst was when I first installed my 824's and of course had them craked up. Heart Attack! Nothing like the sound of a hangup at a couple 'hundred watts. :-o

I thought you fine people here might be able to help since I've picked up many valuable tips on how to use this wonderful program right here :)

Thanks if you can or can't help!

Oh yeah :oops:

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Robert T

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This may not be the problem, but do you have auto-save enabled? Tracktion studders when it saves so maybe its autosaving while you're playing the song. Just a possibility. :)
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I disabled autosave a few months back and that did help alot. It seems like some other function, maybe a Windows thing, is happening. Since I don't know much about "tweaking" the OS(XP Home) I'm kinda nervous about messing around in the bios and such. I'll bet it's something really simple, but I can't find it :cry:

Thanks!
Robert T

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Yeah that is odd. I'm no expert at tweaking OS's so I havent touched my XPHome. Everything runs excellent so I'm not about to get in there mess things up :). Have you tryed turning off real-time priority, and trying different buffer settings on your card? Sorry I cant be of more help, good luck in your quest.
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If you click somewhere on the edit screen (not on the tracks) during playback and hold the mouse button down - is that the noise you're hearing?

For the record, Tracktion doesn't auto-save during playback or recording.

Cheers, Pädy

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Pädy wrote:
For the record, Tracktion doesn't auto-save during playback or recording.

Cheers, Pädy
Thats good to know. :)
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"use realtime priority mode" is disabled and the GSIF buffer size is set to 128 samples. Nothing happens if I click anywhere but on a track. Then the cursor comes to that point and stops but thats not the stutter. The only thing that I've heard sound like this is when I click the pause button on Windows Media Player. Weird, huh?

Thanks guys :) Any other ideas?
Robert T

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Robert T wrote:Nothing happens if I click anywhere but on a track. Then the cursor comes to that point and stops but thats not the stutter.
It shouldn't come to a stop, you're probably double-clicking. Just one click somewhere on an empty track and hold that click. What you should hear is Tracktion in loop mode so to speak. It loops a very small fragment of the edit, which can sound very nasty. Until you let go of that click and playback continues. The reason I asked you about this, is the 'clicking through VST-GUI bug'. This one happens to me more and more. Basically, Tracktion ignores the VST-window and clicks right through it on the edit screen below. This can cause this small fragment loopings for a short while, until you let go of that mousebutton apparently.

And btw Jules, I discoverd that the mouse cursor is mistakenly in text editing mode right before the bug happens.

Cheers, Pädy

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Pady wrote:
The reason I asked you about this, is the 'clicking through VST-GUI bug'. This one happens to me more and more. Basically, Tracktion ignores the VST-window and clicks right through it on the edit screen below. This can cause this small fragment loopings for a short while, until you let go of that mousebutton apparently.
Pady, have you sent Jules a bug report about this? I just ask as I have sent several but Jules can not reproduce it on his machine. I just hope users are sending him bug reports as well as posting here, because alot of things written in the forum do not get picked up by Jules (so he told me). This little bug is worse for me with every build, so I hope it gets squashed soon.
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Hey Pady, this doesn't have anything to do with the"click through the GUI" issue but I do have that happen sometimes when I double click to open an edit from the projects page. This thing happens with no warning(CPU spikes,ect.))or action at all on my part. It doesn't matter how many tracks, clips or filters.............last night it was running after the end of a song(no clips) and it stuttered. Tonight I've had no problem with any project. That's why I don't think it's a problem specific to Tracktion but related in some simple way. Might just be the name "Gateway" on my PC :lol: :cry:

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Robert T

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BIOS is your fried :) seriously, most things you tweak there can be undone on the next bootup, and you can do lot in Windows.

That souds like some kind of bottleneck, could be your harddrive (check that it's running in UDMA mode) or then something (network adapter, graphics card) cloggig up your PCI bus that shoud be happily delivering audio... bit of a process to clear, if that's the case :(.

I'm not sure if this applies to modern machines, but old-schoold tweakers always set the Windows pagefile to a certain size, instead of letting Windows to adjust it on the fly. This adjusting procedure used to cause temporary slow-downs, when OS allocated resources to calculate the necessary size and re-created the actual file on the hard drive.

Virus guards, e-mail and such programs with regular background processes can also cause temporary resource shortages.

Hope you get it sorted.


/ Jon

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Thanks Jon, I'll check these things out. I do believe you're right about it being a bottleneck. I'll find it someday. :(

Thanks for all your feedback :)
Robert T

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