Blue Cat Audio

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:23 am

Hello!
Im (finally) testing out DPMP in FL Studio.
I want to send the midi out to various other plugin parameters in FL.
I was pretty sure I could figure it out...

Im assuming that it will work without an external midi channel being used. Maybe Im wrong there.
Are there any tricks to it you guys are aware of?
Thanks!!

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:13 pm

Have you checked this video tutorial already (you may want to use the presets settings instead of the global settings though)?

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:01 pm

I did watch a few of your tutorials. They are great.
That one has some of the same set up for DPMP, but I dont think what is shown there is the part I dont get.

I can connect them through those Port settings in the FL wrapper, and the are connected, but I cant get it to connect to a specific control on the target.
I can go to the 'link to controller' in FL, and specify midi channel/control, but it doesnt catch.

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:36 pm

I guess this depends on your target. Is it a Blue Cat Audio Plug-in you want to control, or is it a third party plug-in? If it is a third party plug-in and it does not support MIDI control, you can still wrap it into the Blue Cat's PatchWork plug-in and map its parameters to let them be controlled via MIDI. But that's maybe overkill for what you are trying to do...

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:45 pm

Its not a BC plugin that I want to control, but Ive tried various and Im pretty sure they accept control.
Im back at the DAW now and Im gonna start kicking it around again.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:48 am

Well it works great with things that have midi-learn, but Im lost with everything else.
I think theres something Im missing about the set up on the FL side.
Ive posted on the Image-Line forums for some tips as well.
Thanks.

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:37 am

I am not sure how FL handles parameter changes from VSTs, so maybe you have no choice but use MIDI and wrap plug-ins that do not support it.

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:57 am

Well thats ok. So far no one over at the IL forums knows either.

I mean, it works. With MIDI-learn in the plugin, it works as easy as ever.
But without the MIDI-learn it wont connect.

I will report back if I learn anything.

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:18 pm

Thanks for the heads up. We''ll try to investigate further when we have time, but feel free to post here if you find a good way to do it differently

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:05 pm

Nucleon is a magic man

http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.p ... 34#p887634

Dunno if anyone can see the download, but I think anyone can make an account.
Its a bit of Flowstone to convert a midi cc to an FL internal controller.
If you cant get at it I can upload it somewhere for ya if you want.

DPMP wont work in FL without that.
But with it, its supremely simple.
I think that with that, DPMP is going to be a big thing at my house. Thanks.

Now, to kick it around!

Blue Cat Audio · Post by **Blue Cat Audio** » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:26 am

Thanks for the heads up!

By the way, had you tried to enable automation too for the parameters you wanted to use as controls?

highkoo · Post by **highkoo** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 4:43 am

Oh I think I just figured out what you meant;

It seems that DPMP continuously spits out parameter changes from 'Transformed2', even when nothing is playing. FL has an automation creation function that is sort of a shortcut, and assigns based on the 'last parameter tweaked'.
When attempting to assign automation to anything on DPMP, FL always thinks that the last thing tweaked was Transformed2.
FL's vst wrapper has a control to turn the parameter change reporting on or off.
So it can be turned off, but then FL does not get any of the parameter changes, and 'last tweaked' never shows anything.

Buuut, FL shows all VST/i parameters in its browser, so any automation assignments to DPMP can be done easily from there.

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