Tracktion needs support for more types of Audio Files...
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- KVRist
- 199 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from NYC
Like SD2, MP3 (not positive if this IS supported but I think I remeber it isn't) AAC, Mpeg etc. Proably in implemented in v2 I sure but just wanted to voice my opion as I have been converting SD2 for TRacktion alot recently.
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Santa Monica, CA
I know there's been some other threads about MP3 and stuff which I haven't read. But I don't really see the need for it.
You care about which file formats you can import into Tracktion. WAF and AIFF are pretty much all-around standards and you can find cheap/free converters between these two formats and just about anything else. You do this conversion once, when you bring sound in from somewhere, and then you're done.
And then you care about what format you convert it to for publishing it to the world, or putting it on your iPod, or whatever. Again, use whatever your program of choice is -- you only need to do it once, when your final mix is complete.
It doesn't seem to me like it has anything to do with day-to-day composition, and therefore not a focus of Tracktion; not a priority on Jules' list.
But maybe I'm just spoiled because I've been converting into/out of MP3 and other formats for quite some time so it doesn't seem like a big deal for me.
You care about which file formats you can import into Tracktion. WAF and AIFF are pretty much all-around standards and you can find cheap/free converters between these two formats and just about anything else. You do this conversion once, when you bring sound in from somewhere, and then you're done.
And then you care about what format you convert it to for publishing it to the world, or putting it on your iPod, or whatever. Again, use whatever your program of choice is -- you only need to do it once, when your final mix is complete.
It doesn't seem to me like it has anything to do with day-to-day composition, and therefore not a focus of Tracktion; not a priority on Jules' list.
But maybe I'm just spoiled because I've been converting into/out of MP3 and other formats for quite some time so it doesn't seem like a big deal for me.
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
WAV seems to me to be the 'professional' sound format, MP3 and others are for 'jukebox' uses.
Doesn't seem that important on a music production program.
Doesn't seem that important on a music production program.
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- KVRer
- 24 posts since 16 Jan, 2004 from Toronto
Wrong. Us "professionals" sometimes transfer all the parts for a song to someone else in 192 kbps MP3 format when sending them over MSN or whatever, for remix purposes. I'm also starting to see a lot of 192 kbps AAC files being sent my way.
Still though, it would be convenient if Tracktion could do the conversions itself, but it should be placed low on the list of priorities, since most pros also make heavy use of WaveLab's "batch processor" to handle their audio files before working with them (or Sound Forge or Peak for that matter).
Still though, it would be convenient if Tracktion could do the conversions itself, but it should be placed low on the list of priorities, since most pros also make heavy use of WaveLab's "batch processor" to handle their audio files before working with them (or Sound Forge or Peak for that matter).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 199 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from NYC
YEa dude, um I mainly use AIFF and WAV files but there are occasions (importing recorded audio from Logic which saves a SD2). Why not, all the other major sequencers support mutiple formats and it proably not to hard to implement. I expect to see more file formats in v2.
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
Export MP3 is definately more important the import, granted.
I'd also like to see export of an edit as a collection of WAV's (one per track), in order to transfere to other apps.
I'd also like to see export of an edit as a collection of WAV's (one per track), in order to transfere to other apps.
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
exactly. it'd save me quite some work.tingle wrote: I'd also like to see export of an edit as a collection of WAV's (one per track), in order to transfere to other apps.
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- KVRist
- 124 posts since 25 Oct, 2003 from Paris, France
MP3 support means licence (or use of a freeware such as lame, which is just not up to the standard of an ogg file). So get dbpoweramp and stick on working with ogg or Wav, so T. remains lowcost (though, alright, adding a license for MP3 format wouldn't cost that much).
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
There are already programs to do this. Which are free. Which means we don't need Tracktion to do it.
So why waste development time making it do it? It makes no sense.
Export each track as a seperate wav would be nice though
So why waste development time making it do it? It makes no sense.
Export each track as a seperate wav would be nice though
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 199 posts since 2 Mar, 2003 from NYC
WTF, why would you even debate this. If anyone is serouse about using Tracktion as there sole sequencer and with the enhancements in v2 it is very possible I and others will be doing just that, it is completely neccesary to implement varouse audio formats in the same way Cubase and Logic do. I dont like ghetto work arouds.....OSX is shitty for freeware sound converters leaving me to use iTunes which is a pain. Whatever, I would imagine that v2 will have most standard sound formats supported as long as makie is really serouse about taking Tracktion to the next level. It should not be a matter of a "feature request" or wasting jules time....it is only expected as with all major sequencers including cubase, logic and live.
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
I guess if used a mac i'd feel the same.
The 'one stop sequencing package' would be cool, just it may not be able to get it AND be easy to use AND stable AND bug-free(ish).
Tracktion as it stands is far too inconsistent and buggy for my taste (compared to something like photoshop).
The 'one stop sequencing package' would be cool, just it may not be able to get it AND be easy to use AND stable AND bug-free(ish).
Tracktion as it stands is far too inconsistent and buggy for my taste (compared to something like photoshop).
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
Tracktion should not be supporting anything else than 32-bit waws and it's native file type to keep simple and stable.
Wave editors are for post-processing, sequencers are for music-making.
However, the mentioned possibility to save as separate tracks in to one folder would be very handy.
Wave editors are for post-processing, sequencers are for music-making.
However, the mentioned possibility to save as separate tracks in to one folder would be very handy.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
the only thing i can think of related to this thread that i'd like is the ability to <export> as ogg as well as wav and aiff (ogg is supported, and exporting a project uses ogg too) - a feature whose absence baffles me.
however, it's not really that useful seeing as all post work is most effectively done in a separate app (i use acon acoustica - dirt cheap, excellent app). this also only really supports ogg, not mp3, but i ain't afraid to use LAME to convert to mp3 should i need to. jeez how hard can it be?!
i don't think it's a crucial feature at all. there's every chance that it'd get implemented at some point, but to be honest there really isn't much point. word lets me count how many words are in my docs, that doesn't mean i need that feature when it comes to making music.
plus, tracktion is soo cheap. there's no argument!
however, it's not really that useful seeing as all post work is most effectively done in a separate app (i use acon acoustica - dirt cheap, excellent app). this also only really supports ogg, not mp3, but i ain't afraid to use LAME to convert to mp3 should i need to. jeez how hard can it be?!
i don't think it's a crucial feature at all. there's every chance that it'd get implemented at some point, but to be honest there really isn't much point. word lets me count how many words are in my docs, that doesn't mean i need that feature when it comes to making music.
plus, tracktion is soo cheap. there's no argument!
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Adobe Photoshop Cs v8 £504 (3,700 employees)tingle wrote:Tracktion as it stands is far too inconsistent and buggy for my taste (compared to something like photoshop).
Tracktion £50 (1 employee)
Go figure!
I guess if Jules charged Photoshop prices for Tracktion, it would be a very different animal.
