Beta-version of the major update of all effects to 8.00!!!

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Tp3 wrote:The colors are off, I get sliders AND text at the same color, which renders them unreadable...
I've seen that too, but some twiddling of the colour settings in the Style Configuration window can resolve it. Then save the 4-colour set as a Preset for use in the other plug-ins.

In, the "v7" Style Editor, I ended up with two versions of each style - one with light text and one with dark. I'll guess that we will need to do that with the new Style Editor too.

By the way, it looks like the colour presets are stored for each Style, so you may need to replicate them if you choose another Style. Or Export them from one Style and Import them into the other.

I've emailed a few comments off to Vojtech (for a little post-holiday reading :))
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Congrats on the major update, will be downloading soon. Soooo, when is the major update for Mdrummer coming? I use it a lot, especially for fill rolls just dragging into what groove I've come up with. I have no problem with it the way it is, but can you tell me what you might have planned for it?
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Tp3: can you post a screenshot? The default colours should be fine, i personally checked all configurations.

MDrummer: well, when effects are officially released, time for mdrummer ;)

DarkStar: i'll get to it when possible :)
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Could you have another look on the auto-contrast algorithm? With the new system I sometimes have a hard time to find a color so the text is highly readable, while getting a good separation between the different design elements.
I will show two screenshots to explain what I mean.
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There are two problems, that occur no matter which colors you choose, the problems show almost always.
1) In the title bar (Where the words "presets/edit/bypass/setting" are shown) the black text for the word Edit is almost unreadable on the medium blue background. Maybe you need to adjust the threshold where the text switches to black to a later point. In this case white text would be a lot more readable on that color. Also happens for other color combinations. Black text only works, when the background color is already fairly light.

2) The contrast between the light gray background and the darker grey slider-backgrounds is not high enough. I would prefer a slightly bigger difference in lightness between the background color (the one i can choose) and the automatically generated slider-background color. If you do the trick by using transparency, that would mean a lower transparency. In screenshot 2 I tried to use a darker grey to get more contrast, but as you can see, the lightness difference is still very small and it is hard to distinguish between the background and the sliders.

With that two small changes I think it would overall look a lot better.

P.S. on the screenshot you can also see the problem I mentioned earlier about the jagged and hollow oulines of some curves in the editors.
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Here is the second screenshot:
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Confirmed here - give the Highlights colour a nudge, this colour set looks OK here.
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As for the button / background contrast, I 'll guess that it is determined within the Style definition. In the "v7" Style Editor we could adjust this.

I can confirm the raggedy double edges to the EQ curves too.
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Spent a couple of nights playing with the plugins and this is what I noticed:

The scaling of plugins is acting up when you unlink the X and Y. (and put them on 90% and 100% for example) After reloading that plugin the scaling inside the plugin (not the window) is off. (Happens especially with MStereoscope)

I have some weird window focusing issues in Reaper after installing version 8. Especially when other plugins are on top of the Melda plugins.
Plugin windows just disappear and reappear when clicking on the arrangement window for example.
Really annoying! This happens only when I load Melda plugins. (loaded like 50 other plugins and had no issues, after adding MStereoscope and MAnalyzer it started happening again)

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Bug: Reaper x64. MAnalyse x64, Windows 7 x64 Pro

Pressing "Show/Hide" for "Waveform" under "time graph settings", crashes Reaper.
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Nicolaibob: ha! I'll check it out.

Mace404: i'll check the resizing. About the graphical issues - can you try disabling the gpu (settings) ? Also which platform and interface are you using?

Alphacodex & darkstar: quite frankly i don't see the problem with colors. If you have background of middle gray, then it really doesn't matter if you have white or black text. The engine chooses the more different in most cases. Sometimes you may have a problem with sliders if the selector and background are opposite (black & white for example). There's no solution there really.
About the lines - that's definitely problem with gpu. Could you install the newest drivers? What computer are you using? Just in case i could check it out.
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Regarding the font color I dont refer to the text on the gray background but to the black font on the blue background as I wrote in my posting. The white text on th gray background is just fine!

And regarding the slider background I only meant to make the difference a bit bigger so the contrast is better. There must be some for of code to decide how much darker or lighter the gui will render the slider background compared to the background color.

Please see my post again, i believe I described it quite detailed where I see the problem and also uploaded screenshots.

Cheers,
Codex

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Aaaha that's what you mean. The trouble is, it's nor easy/possible to solve every situation. In you case the blue color is the problem. Blue is typically used for backgrounds instead of white/black, because unlike the red/green it is not very "shiny". The unfortunate result is that the foreground must be shiny enough. In your case the blue is quite light, so personally i don't even think white text would be the solution. I could be wrong, so i'll check, but the inevitable truth is that despite the engine is doing a lot to make different color combinatipn work (and trust me it's a really complicated stuff), sometimes it's more or less impossible.

For example, try black background - it works, but some controls need 2 inverted color for grids. And since the main color is white, the inverted is black, so the secondary grid won't be visible. Sure, we can make both white, but that would make usual case, where background is colored, worse, so the compromise is to leave it as is.
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Ok... I didn't know it's so complicated. In that case I can live with it. Maybe I have to pick my colors more carefully then. Anyway it ways just a small "problem". Other than that the new 8.00 version looks and feels very nice and stable already.

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However regarding the jagged outlines, I updated my graphics driver and the problem persists. I had a second look and i have a GeForce 860 GTS in my system and I'm using the newset approved nvidia driver for it. So it's a pretty usual confoguration, yet i still get the jagged and hollow outlines (see my screenshot it can be seen there too).

Could you have a second look at this?

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It's not simple at all. In fact, the human sight and differences between each person are the problem.

About your gpu - did you really mean 860? I checked and it is discontinued for so many years that there is no way i could get my hands on it. You can always disable the gpu in settings menu, but that's quite a shame. May be we could add addinional option for low quality rendering for these ancient cards...the question is why is it doing this. Does somebody else have this problem?
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Sorry I missed a 0 its the 8600 GTS

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