i want to start making some trailer music which is why i bought zebra. but does free really mean royalty free? i looked at all the little pdfs that came with the sounds people shared and all of them basically say 'for your own project' one would assume that if the sounds are released free, they are free to use however you would like. likewise, what about free demo sounds.
they say 'free to use' but are the tasters ok to use commercially. the only free taster sounds that i know that specially state demo are the deep space taster. just dont want to run into any licensing issues. also the other osc wavforms/msegs. has there ever been problems with people using the zebra user library for commercial work before and if so, who are the known offenders that i should avoid.
are the sounds in the user library royalty free?
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
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- KVRist
- 229 posts since 1 Feb, 2013 from United States
No, you can't copyright patches/presets in that way. You can say "please don't give these presets to anyone else" but I don't think that's even enforceable. You CAN sell presets to people if they are willing to pay for it (many presets banks are worth it IMO).
A similar argument arises from fractals. With fractals you can put a copyright on the rendered fractal but if you give the parameter file to someone, they are free to create their own images based on them and distribute the images or even distribute your parameter file.
A similar argument arises from fractals. With fractals you can put a copyright on the rendered fractal but if you give the parameter file to someone, they are free to create their own images based on them and distribute the images or even distribute your parameter file.
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AstralExistence AstralExistence https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=265049
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2276 posts since 19 Sep, 2011
even for commercial sounds? so if somebody pays money for a sound, they can make derivative works? or does this only apply to sounds released for free?
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- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
First thing first: I'm not a lawyer. All I can say is what I think is legal, at best.
If the presets don't come with explicit enough legal terms in the readme then you need to contact the author of the sounds to be absolutely certain. If you can't contact the author and are unsure of their legal status my recommendation is to not use them commercially.
The whole point of the patchlib is to share, explore, and use sounds. However, like all aspects of life, whenever money becomes involved it's best to be cautious.
By the way, I would consider this to be an issue for any preset you download for any synth on the planet. Check the creator and check the license as it applies to you. Don't assume anything.
If the presets don't come with explicit enough legal terms in the readme then you need to contact the author of the sounds to be absolutely certain. If you can't contact the author and are unsure of their legal status my recommendation is to not use them commercially.
The whole point of the patchlib is to share, explore, and use sounds. However, like all aspects of life, whenever money becomes involved it's best to be cautious.
By the way, I would consider this to be an issue for any preset you download for any synth on the planet. Check the creator and check the license as it applies to you. Don't assume anything.
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- KVRian
- 1339 posts since 25 Sep, 2011 from New York
Presets are presets, when you buy them they are yours, the ONLY thing you can not do is resale them as Presets, no one can stop you from making music from those, that's why they were made for, with that intention. When i sell presets they are not made so the customer can only screw around with them on his computer. When you buy LASS or VSL or any Library they sell it to you so you can make Commercial Music. Sometimes it is explicitly stated. People do not have to be Sound Designers to make music only with their own presets. When you buy a Korg Kronos you still use it to make commercial music. Same thing.
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
My guess is that you can use those patches without problems within a musical composition.
The licensing issues are when you want to exploit the raw waveforms ( and/or patches) or bundle the patches with anything else for sell.
For example, as a sound designer, my banks are all "royalty free", the limitations within the license all refer to when someone wants to create other patch banks/sample sets using my sounds which is obviously an unfair thing to do.
The licensing issues are when you want to exploit the raw waveforms ( and/or patches) or bundle the patches with anything else for sell.
For example, as a sound designer, my banks are all "royalty free", the limitations within the license all refer to when someone wants to create other patch banks/sample sets using my sounds which is obviously an unfair thing to do.
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- KVRist
- 229 posts since 1 Feb, 2013 from United States
There's no way to police the policy of "using a preset for commercial use". If you turn the res knob on the filter down one pixel, suddenly the patch is altered with your own original content. I wouldn't worry about it.