Forget Reaper 5!

[metamorphosis]

pattonfreak, source of informatioN/ Not doubting you, just interested. Now might be a good time to buy that non-commercial license folks Save a few hundred dollars.

[pattonfreak1]

[ghettosynth]

pattonfreak, source of informatioN/ Not doubting you, just interested. Now might be a good time to buy that non-commercial license folks Save a few hundred dollars.

For me, that depends on if pattonfreak is correct. I don't need another challenge/response DAW, I like reaper precisely because it is small non-bloated. Sounds like trolling to me, but, it it isn't, it sounds like I got the right bargain as my license will take me through version 4.

[ghettosynth]

I use ReaNINJAM quite a bit. I'm curious why you think that it's such a "disaster?" I'm not challenging your assertion so much as I want to know specifically what you think is wrong with it.

The UI has too much of the wrong stuff in it and too little of the right stuff.

Examples:
* The mixer is unnecessary and makes new users think it's how to adjust their xmit level and bad users think it justifies playing at any volume "because you can always adjust it your end".

Yeah, you see, I disagree. I use the mixer a lot to balance what I'm hearing at my end of other players.

* The Reaper-specific version should be more integrated, e.g. each incoming mono or stereo channel should get the correct "local" channel created in the UI, rather than leaving it to chance...

Yes, routing is awkward.

* It should be more integrated with the server, e.g. allowing BPI and BPM to be displayed (which it is) and selected, i.e. voted on if the server requires it, easily.

Sure, I agree with this and that progress bar is just silly.

(Even more ideally... you shouldn't be able to turn off the metronome and clipping would result in being kicked .)

Ack, no. The metrenome is great for live playing. But I use ninjam for other kinds of jamming as well and it just gets in the way. My friends and I often just take turns establishing tempo for the other players via loops. Sometimes we just do ambient noise and nobody, except for people who enter the channel with expectations, pays any attention to the metronome or the bpm. If the public servers were crowded, I'd feel guilty, but they're not, so we just let people know what we're doing and invite them to join.

Also, the metronome should just trigger the playing of a user provided rex loop so that we don't have to hear tick tick tick while playing, drives me nuts (when I'm playing live and using it). Midi sync would be better, but having the client play one loop would be a reasonable alternative.

In fact, I think that the biggest problem with ninjam is that it's too focused around live playing and it would get much more support from more electronic focused artists if it had the right features to allow them to synchronize loops.

Since I posted this I've found the expert sleepers client and I'm going to modify it to provide some of the features that I want.

[pattonfreak1]

Sounds like trolling to me...

[Andywanders]

I'd be interested what major headline features people think Repear needs.

VST3 would be nice.

However, there seems to be a lot of resistance to this over at the Reaper forum.

[trimph1]

Have you all tried Reaper?

[Andrei Marchenko]

Have you all tried Reaper?

[ravasb]

pattonfreak, source of informatioN/ Not doubting you, just interested. Now might be a good time to buy that non-commercial license folks Save a few hundred dollars.

For me, that depends on if pattonfreak is correct. I don't need another challenge/response DAW, I like reaper precisely because it is small non-bloated. Sounds like trolling to me, but, it it isn't, it sounds like I got the right bargain as my license will take me through version 4.

I did not see anything on the Reaper Forum about this. Early April Fool's or DAWmaggedon?

[ghettosynth]

pattonfreak, source of informatioN/ Not doubting you, just interested. Now might be a good time to buy that non-commercial license folks Save a few hundred dollars.

For me, that depends on if pattonfreak is correct. I don't need another challenge/response DAW, I like reaper precisely because it is small non-bloated. Sounds like trolling to me, but, it it isn't, it sounds like I got the right bargain as my license will take me through version 4.

I did not see anything on the Reaper Forum about this. Early April Fool's or DAWmaggedon?

He acknowledged that he was taking the piss.

But, as long as we're back again. I'd like to see a Reason like "blocks" system. In fact, just copy Reason's blocks correcting some of the mistakes. It should be easy to go from selection to block.

[jens]

Don't take my post the wrong way, everything i said is true, however they are the best developers in audio by a long long way, they have no idea about usability and i suspect that is now why most features creep in to existence, every time they try to do something big they fail miserably and have to spend a lot of time fixing their 'Cleverness'
There are still a hell of a lot of things that need 'fixing' in Reaper, in terms of usability.

Yeah,unfortunately I agree - tbh, with the most items on the changelog for the last 20-30 updates or so I don't even know what it's about. But that in no way indicates that all the minute details are super well thought out and functioning as one would expect - far from it. I have never seen software that was so cumbersome, convoluted, counter-intuitive and inconsistent.

I am regularly using Reaper for many years now, but when I am at a friends place who has different shortcuts and a different setup than me I have a hard time finding even just my most used functions in the myriad of menus and sub-menues. And don't get me started on the preferences which are set in like four or five different places.


A good example of something that works in no way as it should be is the backups:

Reaper crashes often for me. I open Reaper's file-explorer and go to the backup folder.
EVERY TIME I have to find a spot (not easy) where I can access the respective context-menu entry that orders the files by date (By default, Reaper keeps ordering them by name, which does not make so much sense for backup files).
Then, I can't simply double-click it in order to open it. I have to right-click it and chose "open backup-project in Reaper". Then I can't simply save it in order to overwrite the current project-file it relates to. No, instead I have to use the safe dialogue and then manually look for the folder the file is in. The backup-file has no clue where it comes from. Reaper then will use my last used safe settings, which usually are "create new sub-folder for project" (or something along those lines and "move all flies to project folder". So if I do not take care and manually change the settings, then Reaper will create another sub-folder in the project's sub-folder and move all the used files in there (If this happens, I of course have to manually revert this nonsense afterwards).

You would think in 2014 software was smarter than that, but alas...


Whenever I open an Open Office application after a crash or so, the program me tells me that there is a yet unsaved state of a file. Now that's nice. That's how smart computers can be.

[EvilDragon]

However, there seems to be a lot of resistance to this over at the Reaper forum.

In Justin's own words:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6#p2913366

[Andywanders]

However, there seems to be a lot of resistance to this over at the Reaper forum.

In Justin's own words:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6#p2913366

Six years ago.

[hibidy]

However, there seems to be a lot of resistance to this over at the Reaper forum.

In Justin's own words:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6#p2913366

Dude, that was 2008

I don't personally care about vst3. I have it in studio one and it's nothing to get excited about. There is enough sidechaining in popular music to go around

[hibidy]

Ooops, andy beat me to it.