block of flats sound insulation?

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I'm moving to a block of flats apartment which practically eliminates all of my chances of mixing any audio at home, since normally these kind of buildings have really bad sound insulation (or never good enough for stopping people from hearing sounds from the other apartments through the walls/floor/ceiling)

I've heard of this "floating studio" concept which as far as I understand a method of sound insulation by building a room inside a room with specially insulated walls. I also understand that it's very expensive and I don't think it's even quite possible for me since I only live there for rent and I'm probably not able to much of permanent/radical changes.

So I wonder if there is any chances to build (semi-)sufficient insulation to this kind of apartment so I can mix at home or just ANY related tips to help me in my situation?

I really don't know what to do :cry: :help:
Last edited by skybax on Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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depends what you're recording, and how you're monitoring it. And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?

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I built a little room with boom mic stands before,had a mattress at one end with multi material hangings for the rest.
No your not gonna pump a 1000 watts but the key is to use at least 3 different materials sandwiched together for your hangings...

cheers...

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clueless wrote:depends what you're recording, and how you're monitoring it.
well i'm making 100% software-based trance music and using just one pair of old passive speakers.
clueless wrote: And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?
I'm not sure what you mean :help:
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vtx wrote:I built a little room with boom mic stands before,had a mattress at one end with multi material hangings for the rest.
No your not gonna pump a 1000 watts but the key is to use at least 3 different materials sandwiched together for your hangings...

cheers...
hangings? I don't want to kill anyone :o (j/k)
I've understood that the hard part is to insulate low frequencies, which are the ones most easily penetrating ones and therefore the most difficult to eliminate?
and since it's 4/4 measure trance I'll be pumping out, it's probably more annoying/relevant than with other type of music.
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skybax wrote:
clueless wrote: And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?
I'm not sure what you mean :help:
the building you're living in - was it built as an apartment block, or is it an old house or something which has been converted into apartments?

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I got the same problem here. What I WILL do one day, is use one of the rooms here, and do like this: build a "box" made of wood, with some cm of space fromt he "box" to the walls. Remember, air is the best insulation yet. If possible, use bricks instead. A guy I know did with briks, creating a "box" inside the room, and the insulation was perfect. He was in a flat building too. ;-) Ok, after the box is created, you should put some mattress or insulating-foam (or even eggs case) on the inside of the box. Not inside the wall-box area ok?

That should do the trick...

Best Regards, WilliamK

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clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote: And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?
I'm not sure what you mean :help:
the building you're living in - was it built as an apartment block, or is it an old house or something which has been converted into apartments?
it's a 3-story block of flats building. not a conversion.
psy-trance freak

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skybax wrote:
clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote: And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?
I'm not sure what you mean :help:
the building you're living in - was it built as an apartment block, or is it an old house or something which has been converted into apartments?
it's a 3-story block of flats building. not a conversion.
and which floor are you on?

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WilliamK wrote:I got the same problem here. What I WILL do one day, is use one of the rooms here, and do like this: build a "box" made of wood, with some cm of space fromt he "box" to the walls. Remember, air is the best insulation yet. If possible, use bricks instead. A guy I know did with briks, creating a "box" inside the room, and the insulation was perfect. He was in a flat building too. ;-) Ok, after the box is created, you should put some mattress or insulating-foam (or even eggs case) on the inside of the box. Not inside the wall-box area ok?

That should do the trick...

Best Regards, WilliamK
yeah this is basically the floating studio thing, of which i'm sure it works but I don't think it's currently a possible solution for me...

egg cases will hardly *insulate* ANY sound -- AFAIK it's mostly used for acoustic treatment. And I've read it's just a myth, anyway. Personally, I wouldn't trust it for anything else than what it was made for :roll:
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clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote: And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?
I'm not sure what you mean :help:
the building you're living in - was it built as an apartment block, or is it an old house or something which has been converted into apartments?
it's a 3-story block of flats building. not a conversion.
and which floor are you on?
2nd floor... :roll:
psy-trance freak

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skybax wrote:
clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote: And is it a purpose-built block, or a conversion?
I'm not sure what you mean :help:
the building you're living in - was it built as an apartment block, or is it an old house or something which has been converted into apartments?
it's a 3-story block of flats building. not a conversion.
and which floor are you on?
2nd floor... :roll:
And finally...does anyone live on the same floor as you (even in an adjoining building)?

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skybax wrote:egg cases will hardly *insulate* ANY sound -- AFAIK it's mostly used for acoustic treatment. And I've read it's just a myth, anyway. Personally, I wouldn't trust it for anything else than what it was made for :roll:
:lol: indeed, they are used often to cancel the plate effect, echos, etc... but yes, for insulation is a bad choice, my mistake. The floating-studio is still the best thing I would say... I'm doing one for me latter this year... ;-)

Wk

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WilliamK wrote:The floating-studio is still the best thing I would say... I'm doing one for me latter this year... ;-)
Good for you! :wink:

I'll definitely look into my chances of doing it myself since I know it will work, but I am not confident.
psy-trance freak

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clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote:
skybax wrote:
clueless wrote:
skybax wrote: I'm not sure what you mean :help:
the building you're living in - was it built as an apartment block, or is it an old house or something which has been converted into apartments?
it's a 3-story block of flats building. not a conversion.
and which floor are you on?
2nd floor... :roll:
And finally...does anyone live on the same floor as you (even in an adjoining building)?
I know little of the actual placing of the flats or the structure of the building in that sense...
I think there is two stairways, so two entrances to the building and therefore two sets of flats.
so I'm pretty sure there is someone living on the same floor.
psy-trance freak

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