Somebody tried Harrison Mixbus for Windows?
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 13 Oct, 2009 from Nashville, TN
Hi wasi,
Because Harrison is built around professional editing/mixing, we've focused on those features for Mixbus. I understand that KVR is largely computer-based arranging. But it's still pretty common to have a separate mixer finalize your mixes; and for that guy, Mixbus makes a lot of sense. It's optimized for that stage of the process.
We do recognize the need for some engineering-focused MIDI functions, though ( for drum replacement and vocal tuning, stuff like that ) ... so we will be incorporating the MIDI tracks of Ardour3. As a side-effect you'll get virtual instrument support.
In my opinion, there's questionable need for 'yet another' editing/arranging app. But nobody does mixing like Mixbus!
Regarding 64bit, we make 64bit builds of Mixbus on Linux, because it is required there. Currently on Windows and Mac, we think it's more important to retain compatibility all the way back to old systems, because people are still trying to get some mileage from them. Mixbus doesn't have virtual instruments, so the extra memory of a 64bit system isn't needed. Mixbus already uses 64bit math where needed in the DSP, so we don't need to avail ourselves of a 64bit OS for that. But you're right, eventually everyone will migrate to 64bit and we are ready to do that, when our users have exhausted the lives of their 32bit systems.
Again, we all make choices when we make a product. Mixbus is about the engineering tasks of editing and mixing. Everybody that is producing and arranging will have to mix at some point, so nearly everyone can use Mixbus in addition to their other apps. We aren't limited to "just Logic users" or "Just Cakewalk users" so we have to run on a huge range of systems. That's one of the things that makes us different.
Thanks for the feedback!
Because Harrison is built around professional editing/mixing, we've focused on those features for Mixbus. I understand that KVR is largely computer-based arranging. But it's still pretty common to have a separate mixer finalize your mixes; and for that guy, Mixbus makes a lot of sense. It's optimized for that stage of the process.
We do recognize the need for some engineering-focused MIDI functions, though ( for drum replacement and vocal tuning, stuff like that ) ... so we will be incorporating the MIDI tracks of Ardour3. As a side-effect you'll get virtual instrument support.
In my opinion, there's questionable need for 'yet another' editing/arranging app. But nobody does mixing like Mixbus!
Regarding 64bit, we make 64bit builds of Mixbus on Linux, because it is required there. Currently on Windows and Mac, we think it's more important to retain compatibility all the way back to old systems, because people are still trying to get some mileage from them. Mixbus doesn't have virtual instruments, so the extra memory of a 64bit system isn't needed. Mixbus already uses 64bit math where needed in the DSP, so we don't need to avail ourselves of a 64bit OS for that. But you're right, eventually everyone will migrate to 64bit and we are ready to do that, when our users have exhausted the lives of their 32bit systems.
Again, we all make choices when we make a product. Mixbus is about the engineering tasks of editing and mixing. Everybody that is producing and arranging will have to mix at some point, so nearly everyone can use Mixbus in addition to their other apps. We aren't limited to "just Logic users" or "Just Cakewalk users" so we have to run on a huge range of systems. That's one of the things that makes us different.
Thanks for the feedback!
- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
As a side-effect you'll get virtual instrument support.
imho 64bit support must be availabe when vst support is implemented otherwise its half-baked.But you're right, eventually everyone will migrate to 64bit and we are ready to do that, when our users have exhausted the lives of their 32bit systems.
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- KVRian
- 1063 posts since 28 Dec, 2012 from Boston area
Understood, but most software that does 64 bit also does 32, either with separate installers or a single unified one, so there's no loss of compatibility for end users. If your dev chain already supports 64 bit builds, and that support isn't limited to Linux, it seems far better to do both on all platforms.BenLoftis wrote:Currently on Windows and Mac, we think it's more important to retain compatibility all the way back to old systems, because people are still trying to get some mileage from them.
I also agree with @murnau that VSTIs w/o 64 bit support won't get very far in the marketplace. In spite of its inexpensive price, Mixbus isn't a bottom-feeder DAW, and I assume you don't only users of old machines to adopt it on Windows. That's an odd target market
- KVRAF
- 5255 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
Any one? Ben? Know where users download the latest version. As I already said I have the original download links for 2.2 but they have expired. Where is 2.5?
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- KVRAF
- 25849 posts since 20 Jan, 2008 from a star near where you are
I got this promo this morning, no-brainer deal, it is available for 20 bucks until May 15th:Syntilla wrote:Glad they don't have a demo: I'd have paid full price for this.
Even now, £100 (plus VAT) looks a bit of a steal.
http://www.rspeaudio.com/NO-BRAINER-DEA ... on-mix.htm
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- KVRist
- 471 posts since 5 Dec, 2007 from Location! Location!
I'm in!Numanoid wrote:I got this promo this morning, no-brainer deal, it is available for 20 bucks until May 15th:Syntilla wrote:Glad they don't have a demo: I'd have paid full price for this.
Even now, £100 (plus VAT) looks a bit of a steal.
http://www.rspeaudio.com/NO-BRAINER-DEA ... on-mix.htm
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- KVRist
- 335 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Sorry if this has already been covered, but do any/all the FX that come with Mixbuss work as ordinary vsts in other hosts? Or are they locked/built in?
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 21 Apr, 2005
They work inside of Mixbus only. I don't think they are VSTs at all, actually. If you try to scan them with another host, they aren't even recognized.skitchy wrote:Sorry if this has already been covered, but do any/all the FX that come with Mixbuss work as ordinary vsts in other hosts? Or are they locked/built in?
I can see where they might could make some decent money selling the plugins as VSTs. A couple of them are fairly unique.
- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 6 Mar, 2001 from London, UK
Hi BenLoftis,
Two quick questions, apologies if you've already answered them somewhere else already.
Does Mixbus support any edit list formats, such as AAF or EDL for importing bundled stems?
And, what is the likely timescales of offering midi controller integration under Windows?
Thanks H.
Two quick questions, apologies if you've already answered them somewhere else already.
Does Mixbus support any edit list formats, such as AAF or EDL for importing bundled stems?
And, what is the likely timescales of offering midi controller integration under Windows?
Thanks H.
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 13 Oct, 2009 from Nashville, TN
If you scroll down on our store page ( http://harrisonconsoles.com/site/store-mixbus.html ) you will find a partner product that loads AAF/OMF files into Mixbus. Once you've installed ArdourXchange, you can select an AAF or OMF file directly from within Mixbus's "Open" dialog.
The add-on was created by Creative Post, not Harrison. If you think about it, that's a pretty amazing testament to open-source development. No other commercial DAW allows collaborators to change the fundamental operation of the program.
Regarding a timescale for midi controllers, I've been in the software business far too long to guess at a release date.
However I know that the controller integration has been dramatically improved in the v3 code we are working on.
Best,
Ben
The add-on was created by Creative Post, not Harrison. If you think about it, that's a pretty amazing testament to open-source development. No other commercial DAW allows collaborators to change the fundamental operation of the program.
Regarding a timescale for midi controllers, I've been in the software business far too long to guess at a release date.
Best,
Ben
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- KVRAF
- 2513 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
I'm going to get it, I'll still use FL for sequencing and dance type stuff, but Mixbus looks like it might be pretty good for straight up multitrack recording, for actual rock bands and such.