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4damind wrote:Btw. is ACE is sharing the same sound engine (oscillator, filter,...) as Bazille?
No, they are fundamentally different instruments.

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When will I be able to patch between ACE and Brazzile :wink: :love:

Joking/Hoping aside - Is the the ubber modular that has been discussed before, the modules of ACE and Brazzile in a larger modular framework?
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SLiC wrote:When will I be able to patch between ACE and Brazzile :wink: :love:
It seems you're looking very forward to the upcoming FIFA world cup, but our product is still called Bazille... ;)

No ETA of Berlin Modular, but we can assure we'll soon have more stuff worth drooling.
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4damind wrote:Btw. is ACE is sharing the same sound engine (oscillator, filter,...) as Bazille?
Bazille sound isn't based on anything has digital FM oscillators and analogue filters.

ACE is based on a ARP 2600 all analogue emulated and does it as well as DIVA.

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Kaboom75 wrote:
4damind wrote:Btw. is ACE is sharing the same sound engine (oscillator, filter,...) as Bazille?
Bazille sound isn't based on anything has digital FM oscillators and analogue filters.

ACE is based on a ARP 2600 all analogue emulated and does it as well as DIVA.
Oh, I had no idea that ACE is based on a ARP 2600... I remember that I liked the sound of ACE a lot and now after demoing Bazille (which I don't like) this question comes to my mind.

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Well, it's not really based on an ARP 2600. It's just based on the concept of it (prepatched routings, ACE has a slightly higher number of modules)

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Urs wrote:Well, it's not really based on an ARP 2600. It's just based on the concept of it (prepatched routings, ACE has a slightly higher number of modules)
Aah, yes. Are the oscillators of ACE based on some hardware or is it more some "generic" analog emulation?

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I always thought it sounded Like an ARP.

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sascha wrote:
SLiC wrote:When will I be able to patch between ACE and Brazzile :wink: :love:
It seems you're looking very forward to the upcoming FIFA world cup, but our product is still called Bazille... ;)

No ETA of Berlin Modular, but we can assure we'll soon have more stuff worth drooling.
:) Its so hard for me to say 'Bazille' without at least thinking 'Brazil'! - But that's the UK for you, we don't really do languages or accents (other than our own!)

I always love the U-HE stuff, cant wait for more- I already have all the synths (inc. Zebra HZ) and Satin, so you need to make more stuff faster ;-)
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4damind wrote:
Urs wrote:Well, it's not really based on an ARP 2600. It's just based on the concept of it (prepatched routings, ACE has a slightly higher number of modules)
Aah, yes. Are the oscillators of ACE based on some hardware or is it more some "generic" analog emulation?
They're not based on anything in particular. The feature set was chosen to fit a certain way of thinking and patching.

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Thank you, cant stop wonder by his sound.

Oh..em...The only thing I long wanted to write ("well, starts")))) this is implementation of sound generation by real time, ie without DAW transport. What usually present in a modular system, or in a system with free routing.
Of course, it is not only about the presence of the internal step sequencer (or its alternative, mapping generator for example in this case), but more even about for example simply realtime signal without 'note on' via cable outlet from LFO to audio output.

Seems to have had a conversation on this subject, but I confess I do not remember what happened after that.
(And I do not know, not very well skilled in Bazille as yet, it is also probably is not focused on the described mode?)

But of course, if are talking about some common technical "paradigm" of these instruments, tied to the 'note on', which will need to change for the sake of the described features (when everything good also without it) then I would not want to burden of head programmer via these specific capabilities, especially if it would not seem also as interesting to many. Then let it remain just thinking aloud.

As to me, just usually like to create some sound textures without sequencer commands (aalto etc). Hence the whole subject.

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Kaboom75 wrote:
4damind wrote:ACE is based on a ARP 2600 all analogue emulated and does it as well as DIVA.
I did not know that and I don't think I would have ever guessed.

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c_voltage wrote: But of course, if are talking about some common technical "paradigm" of these instruments, tied to the 'note on', which will need to change for the sake of the described features
its a pity the midi model is so pervasive, e.g note-on with pitch/velocity starting a gate.
this is a percussive model, well suited to a piano (etc) but not so suitable for everything e.g. we wind controllers. (it can be worked around, but there are alway limitations)

it would be good if a futures software modular avoided this 'midi centric' view, just as hardware modulars do.

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New presets are fantastic thanks Howard. Knobs at the top of the gui look nicer.
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thetechnobear wrote:
c_voltage wrote: But of course, if are talking about some common technical "paradigm" of these instruments, tied to the 'note on', which will need to change for the sake of the described features
its a pity the midi model is so pervasive, e.g note-on with pitch/velocity starting a gate.
this is a percussive model, well suited to a piano (etc) but not so suitable for everything e.g. we wind controllers. (it can be worked around, but there are alway limitations)

it would be good if a futures software modular avoided this 'midi centric' view, just as hardware modulars do.
The problem is "polyphonic", not MIDI. Anything that's got more than one voice will need some sort of voice triggering and tuning system. Note Ons are ideal for that. If you want something that's "always on" then you need something that doesn't have a concept of voices.

This is why Zebrify became an effect. It's the perfect counterpart for Zebra as a synth that's "always on".

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