So the demand on Wave Seq'ing vst is that low ?

[Sendy]

I tend to think of wave sequencing as the ability for an oscillator to switch to any waveform at any given moment, under control of the programmer. Wavetable synths can certainly emulate this functionality, especially if they support crossfading between waves, but the wavetable is limited by it's own design - usually a certain number of wave slots in a certain order. There's certainly a lot of overlap between the two approaches, despite technically being quite different.

Wave sequencing also plays a role in the SID chiptune sound, where enterprising programmers would switch rapidly between different waveforms to create new effects, for example, rapidly switching between triangle and noise 5 or so times while lowering the pitch, creates the classic "SID snare" sound, a very artificial but impactful percussive patch.

[Numanoid]

Wave sequencing is slightly different from wavetable sequencing, fmr.

According to "Korg Wavestation Player's Guide" (1990): "A wave sequence is a programmed list of PCM waves playing in succession"

Still true?

[whyterabbyt]

Wave sequencing is slightly different from wavetable sequencing, fmr.

According to "Korg Wavestation Player's Guide" (1990): "A wave sequence is a programmed list of PCM waves playing in succession"

Still true?

Depends whether its an explanation of the parlance as being used by Korg, or an attempt to create a universal definition. I'd assume the former, so self-confirming. If the latter, then no, for multiple reasons including the technical (eg the specificity of 'PCM')

[Numanoid]

Correct me if I am wrong, I could only see a handful of Vst out there which have decent wave seq'ing features.

I think you need to specify more clearly what you mean by wave sequencing?

If I sequence z3ta+ or Curve in a modular environment like a DAW, is that wave-sequencing ?

[Sendy]

Correct me if I am wrong, I could only see a handful of Vst out there which have decent wave seq'ing features.

I think you need to specify more clearly what you mean by wave sequencing?

If I sequence z3ta+ or Curve in a modular environment like a DAW, is that wave-sequencing ?

If you use it to create a sequence, in which different waves play, I'd go with yes

Ex: Diva, set velocity to modulate waveform type for the Moog-style oscillator bank, create a 16th sequence with different pitches and velocities, and that is wavesequencing, albeit at note-on.

Is it Wavesequencing (TM Korg)? Probably not. But things have moved on and it's more useful to generalize the concept.

[EvilDragon]

Wave sequencing is slightly different from wavetable sequencing, fmr.

According to "Korg Wavestation Player's Guide" (1990): "A wave sequence is a programmed list of PCM waves playing in succession"

Still true?

Yes, that is still true. The keyword there is PCM waveforms/samples. In case of wavetable scanning, they are not PCM samples, but single-cycle waveforms in fact.

[Chris-S]

So the difference between the several implementations is the length of the waves (single cycle or multiple cycles) and the transition between (blending / switching).

PPG Wave was a single cycle switcher, giving the typical sound.

[Blue-eyed Blonde Ape]

Wave sequencing:
A lit bit out of time, but human feel doesn't hurt

Square__________Square___________Square____________Square___________
________________Triangle____________________________Triangle__________
________Sine_____________Sine_____________Sine_______________Sine____
_Noise__Noise___Noise____Noise___Noise_____Noise_____Noise____Noise___

[Phase47]

I believe he's talking about the kind of Vector Synthesis that was in Prophet VS and then in the Korg Wavestation? And yes, if there was a plug-in that nailed this kind of synthesis, I'd buy it day-one.

[Numanoid]

I believe he's talking about the kind of Vector Synthesis that was in Prophet VS and then in the Korg Wavestation? And yes, if there was a plug-in that nailed this kind of synthesis, I'd buy it day-one.

You have tried Korg Wavestation VST, and Arturia Prophet V ?

The Prophet VS uses wave table or vector oscillators. In this type of synthesis, the oscillator waveforms are digitally stored in a table which the user can freely select, depending on the texture of the sound that is required.

There are 96 digitally sampled waveform types. Use up to 4 oscillators simultaneously and mix them in real time by sweeping the joystick or the 5 point envelope.

[fmr]

I believe he's talking about the kind of Vector Synthesis that was in Prophet VS and then in the Korg Wavestation? And yes, if there was a plug-in that nailed this kind of synthesis, I'd buy it day-one.

You have been very distracted then, since Wavestation has a virtual version (as good or even better than the haerdware counterpart) since several years, and the Prophet VS was also very well emulated by Arturia.
But wave sequencing is NOT vector synthesis - The Wavestation does vector synthesis AND wave sequencing, while the Prophet VS only does vector synthesis.

[ENV1]

Wave sequencing is NOT vector synthesis - The Wavestation does vector synthesis AND wave sequencing, while the Prophet VS only does vector synthesis.

Strictly seen this is true. On the other hand it kind of depends on how you look at it because technically you can achieve with vectors what you can achieve with sequencing, only that you are limited to 4 transitions (VS/WS) and that you wont be able to avoid the crossfade effect.

(With 'true' wavesequencing as found in the WS WaveSequencer you can only go to (or crossfade) directly from one wave to another, but never a mixture of 2 waves or more. The vector-paths on the other hand allow you to do that since the mixer-points can be set to positions that can have a signal-percentage of 2 or even all 4 oscs and then even criss-cross each other as the paths are being executed. Still you can use the vectors in a hard-NESW arrangement to crossfade directly from one single wave into another single wave as well, just as you would with the WS WaveSequencer.)

Maybe the fact that the two concepts are technically so similar is the reason why people have been using the term 'wavesequencing' for this practically for as long as i can remember. But strictly seen it is of course still not really correct.

[rayola1]

Auger by antti is a fine sounding emulation of the Prophet VS. There are patch banks available right here on KVR -
I particularly like the patches by Ann. Instant Eighties!

[cowby]

Sorry for my late reply.... As we are in the diff time zone.

Korg Wavestation (or similar to it) vst is what I was talking about. PCM samples running in sequence....

It turned out that someone has discussed before. But I just wanted to know why there are only handful of developer to develop this kind of VST ?

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... &view=next

[pdxindy]

But I just wanted to know why there are only handful of developer to develop this kind of VST ?

I've wondered the same thing... the Wavestation was an excellent creation (used to own one) and one might think there would be more variations on the idea in VST land...