Why being a hiphop producer sucks

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Interesting article on the latest 50 cents album: https://medium.com/thoughts-about-music ... bbf2e777ff

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If I'm not mistaken, you really only have sell just one beat in order to get a good return on your investment, assuming, of course, that you make the right choice when choosing your beat making software. I think that it goes without saying that everything must be "high grade."


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Yep! (^^^ beat me to it ^^^) :tu:
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n/m
This is the same method MJ used when he was working on Anthony Marinelli's Thriller.

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Wow the font is huge, I didn't want to read too far. I'll wait for somebody to come in and summarize it.
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RunBeerRun wrote:Wow the font is huge, I didn't want to read too far. I'll wait for somebody to come in and summarize it.
Fity Cent just released his new album, if you think that it sounds old, that's cause it is old. It's been five years since his last effort and some of the "beats" that he is using came from producers almost that many years ago. Woe is the poor hip hop beatmaker who won't know until almost the last minute that their "beat" is getting used by big name hip hop artists who wait until the last damn second to let people know "hey bro, I'm using that beat you sent me, I'm going to throw some money at you."

There was more, but I got bored.

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Hey!!!!

It is "Bag On Rap" weekend at teh KvRs!!!!!!!
Barry
If a billion people believe a stupid thing it is still a stupid thing

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trimph1 wrote:Hey!!!!

It is "Bag On Rap" weekend at teh KvRs!!!!!!!
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trimph1 wrote:Hey!!!!

It is "Bag On Rap" weekend at teh KvRs!!!!!!!
And, we are in luck, because ghettosynth just heard about the awesomeness of DubTurbo!!

:party: :party:

But, what a ridiculous article.
It 'sucks' that one of the biggest names in your genre used your track?
I dont even understand their point.
Because it was five years later..?
So what?
That is almost inconsequential.
They wanted a 40 hour work week with a paycheck on Friday..?
The lowly bedroom producer is 'woeful' because he was forced to simply accept a fat check and was not privy to the intricacies of the five year album process?
This scenario repeats itself endlessly in hip-hop, with rappers who are signed to labels amassing huge catalogs of songs to beats they’ve never paid for.
Uh, yeah?
And most producers are dying to have a stack of their beats in one of those 'pools'.
So, rappers should be paying for the beats they are not using/publicizing?
Or, they should only go out and look for beats right as they are making an album?
Wat?

lol, this is how he ends the article;
The music industry has always been a place where the unexpected happens— entertainment industries are like that; one day the phone magically rings and your life can change— but right now it’s the real wild west. If you’re looking to plan out your music career, it’s impossibly difficult. You’ll just have to cross your fingers and hope something sticks.
???????
I dont think the author even knows what he is trying to say.

And one last edit;
Its kind of bs that they pick on 50, because he has often been the guy to use a no-names beat on a high profile track, and to not hide producers names. 50 has been pretty good to the bedroom guys, even if it is five years late.
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I liked most rap pre-90's, but starting in the 90's it started getting all shady and cheesy, then it was just loops.

What do you do? I talk with Autotune over some piano roll loops.
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RunBeerRun wrote:I liked most rap pre-90's, but starting in the 90's it started getting all shady and cheesy, then it was just loops.

What do you do? I talk with Autotune over some piano roll loops.
The late 80's, early 90's were Hip-Hop. Today's transmogrified crap like jay-z and diddy and cent. They are a f**king disgrace.

But yeah, RBR, the mid-nineties is when it all went wrong. Today, there are still people carrying a torch, Ninjatune for example, but that gets roped in more with Trip-Hop than Hip-Hop.

I move in rock circles and the amount of sheer shit I get is incredible. And I'm not sure it is worth it. Most the arguments I find hard to defend, but I still do, best I can.

Let's face it. Hip-Hop died ten years ago, but rock died over twenty and still they flog the horse. No point arguing with burned out has beens that were never any good in the first place. The music world is a bitter world. If I had children, I would not allow them to go into music, I'd rather see them become a lawyer before a musician. And that is saying something.

Hip-Hop will keep going. Mutated by new producers and artists (like me, and no baileys you can not hear any of my f**king music ;-)). It will keep being cross-fertalized by the viral marketing with the white markets - hello Justin Bieber and all the recent nigga shit. How timely. Just as Ms.Brad Pitt has a new film out, then Fiddy does a play on that, and in the daily HEIL HEIL HEIL, he is saying, no don't pick on poor little justin, he sells 40,000 records an hour and I need that market, I don't care that he called a few brothers niggers, coz we is all getting paid. Nigger's just a nigger to a nigger. Look it up.

And white people get credibility = sales. It isn't about black white. It is about sales. And they got that. I would say in spades, but that might be a bridge too far.

:-)

Hip Hop?

f**king disgrace. Not talking about Ninjatune now, they are keeping it real, or surreal even as the case may be, but Beyonce - the fur thing - where the animals are skinned alive - effectively tortured to death. Don't make me laugh. I don't want to go into their world, or I would have to fight them, and there is more of them than there are of me, and they have guns and I don't .

Yet, I still like to knock out my beats, much to the disdain of every single person I know, Mod, Rocker, Technoer, I am a joke amongst men. But I Proudly carry the torch that people like Kid Rock and LL Cool J and Queen Latifah and The Beastie Boys laid down. I'm on a hiding to nothing, that's for sure.

But like I said before, it's not about me, is it? It's about the game. The machine.

Got to laugh though at all the idiots that think it is some kind of big mind control program -MKUltra. Yeah, right.

This world is truly in flames.

But whatever you do, don't have a go at me about choice of words. Words are free. And no words are banned, when they are in common usage. I think that black people playing the racism card is doing far far more to perpetrate racism, than some stupid red-knecked crackers. Just don't.

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Yeah, I guess young people still want today's stuff though, just because it's new.

We had basic cable when I was young and there was Yo! MTV raps so I got to hear all of the innovators. I guess there's no point to me having cable now....
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RunBeerRun wrote:Yeah, I guess young people still want today's stuff though, just because it's new.

We had basic cable when I was young and there was Yo! MTV raps so I got to hear all of the innovators. I guess there's no point to me having cable now....

What was it Paul Weller said? The people want what the people get.

That has never been more true than today.

Back then we wanted what we got coz it was all we could get, so to speak.
Today? They got it all, yet they still can't help sucking on the titty.

I see trouble ahead.

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And the public gets what the public wants, sorry:


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This, I would say, is Hip Hop at its finest:

Young MC "Bust A Move"




What's a HPF for? Frequency clash much? One holy clusterfuck of sound.

But it works.

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